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marnixR
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: what is the historical evidence for jesus christ ? Reply with quote

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the following article Debunking the Historical Jesus set me thinking : apart from the bible and the apocrypha, is there any reliable historical evidence that jesus christ existed ?
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't say for sure. But if he died and rose again what is the evidence for saying he was not a zombie?
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There were, and still are, /TONS/ of posts (mostly by me) on the subject of the bible and historical authenticity. In such posts I have included many website references, even videos. You would be wise to use the all-powerful search feature to educate yourself, rather than beating a dead horse.

After all, the topic gets tired after the first 1,542 times.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jeremy, i think you suffer from forum fatigue

still, i'll have a search when i feel like it - unless you want to supply a link ?
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angrysoba wrote:
I can't say for sure. But if he died and rose again what is the evidence for saying he was not a zombie?


Excellent observation. Did you see 'Dawn of the Dead'? Notice the zombie in sandals? I suppose Jesus has to get work where he can. Not much job security preaching on the Mount and feeding a few hundred with bread and fish when Mcdonalds serves billions. A role as a zombie in films here and there keeps Jesus out of the money changer temples.
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marnixR wrote:
jeremy, i think you suffer from forum fatigue

still, i'll have a search when i feel like it - unless you want to supply a link ?


Confused "forum fatigue"?

It's quite simple, just search for my username and my posts in the religious section of the forum. I warn you, however, that most of my posts are from a time when my grammar and writing style is worse. You'll have to suffer it.

http://www.thescienceforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5065&highlight=

I found one specific link there.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks - i found the following link the most useful
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Indeed, that is one of the best links on the subject. There is also a video somewhere. I'll try to locate it for you.

Edits FTW: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=240932624838653629&hl=en
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeremyhfht wrote:
...rather than beating a dead horse.

But...but......where else will they practice their forum-fu? Razz

Jeremyhfht wrote:
After all, the topic gets tired after the first 1,542 times.

I think you made a typo. The ",542" appears to be a mistake. Repeat topics become "dead horse" on the first repeat.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fine, change "beating" to "beatings". though that still doesn't make sense, they've been beating it for a long time.
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In the infinite universe, anything's possible. We hope that if we keep beating it, it'll wake up. (The same method applies to idiots.) Smile
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you mean to say that if you beat an idiot, s/he wakes up ?
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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marnixR wrote:
you mean to say that if you beat an idiot, s/he wakes up ?

It's only a theory.

....If anything, it'll make you feel better. Very Happy
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Indeed, but occasionally the lines blurr, and the "intelligent insulter" becomes the "retard that doesn't know what he's talking about".

Hence why it's best not to throw ad-homs. You might find yourself on the excessive ad-homing end that is completely wrong.

The only reason you should do it, is once or twice when you've been through more years of research than the other has been alive (even then, it's questionable).

Edit: Yes, I know, I ruin everything. Anti-lulz am I.
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the very basics of forum etiquette : head for thinking, fingers for typing
don't let the fingers get away with typing without consulting with a cool head first - a few minutes in the fridge should do the trick
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