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| Bishadi |
 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by?
Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy? |
how about looking into a new pub that is addressing the total potential when light and electrons combine
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the case that this energy average yields equal reflection and transmission probabilities R = T = 1/2, the final value of the concurrence after passage of
the electron is C(t =∞) = 1. In this case, maximal entanglement results during the passage of the electron through the system—independent of the precise dependence of the stationary concurrence in the energetic range of the wave packet. This entanglement enhancement is only possible because the scattering matrix S retains its sparse structure (9) for all energies. |
the mods around here don't read or comprehend much past the 50's
so before the peanut gallery around here removes this post i will PM the link 2u.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/9/3/067/njp7_3_067.pdf?request-id=ff63f40e-f18d-48b8-abd2-922826f23e94
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Entanglement between static and flying qubits in an
Aharonov–Bohm double electrometer
Henning Schomerus and John P Robinson
Department of Physics, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YB, UK
New Journal of Physics 9 (2007) 67
Received 10 November 2006
Published 21 March 2007
Online at http://www.njp.org/
doi:10.1088/1367-2630/9/3/067
Abstract. We consider the phase-coherent transport of electrons passing
through an Aharonov–Bohm ring while interacting with a tunnel charge in a
double quantum dot (representing a charge qubit) which couples symmetrically
to both arms of the ring. For Aharonov–Bohm flux AB = h/2e we find that
electrons can only be transmitted when they flip the charge qubit’s pseudospin
parity an odd number of times. The perfect correlations of the dynamics of the
pseudospin and individual electronic transmission and reflection events can be
used to entangle the charge qubit with an individual passing electron. |
the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
but the ignorant just can't grasp it............................ (janus; either read or perhaps find a new field to work in) |
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| DrRocket |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| kojax wrote: |
I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by?
Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy? |
how about looking into a new pub that is addressing the total potential when light and electrons combine
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the case that this energy average yields equal reflection and transmission probabilities R = T = 1/2, the final value of the concurrence after passage of
the electron is C(t =∞) = 1. In this case, maximal entanglement results during the passage of the electron through the system—independent of the precise dependence of the stationary concurrence in the energetic range of the wave packet. This entanglement enhancement is only possible because the scattering matrix S retains its sparse structure (9) for all energies. |
the mods around here don't read or comprehend much past the 50's
so before the peanut gallery around here removes this post i will PM the link 2u.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/9/3/067/njp7_3_067.pdf?request-id=ff63f40e-f18d-48b8-abd2-922826f23e94
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Entanglement between static and flying qubits in an
Aharonov–Bohm double electrometer
Henning Schomerus and John P Robinson
Department of Physics, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YB, UK
New Journal of Physics 9 (2007) 67
Received 10 November 2006
Published 21 March 2007
Online at http://www.njp.org/
doi:10.1088/1367-2630/9/3/067
Abstract. We consider the phase-coherent transport of electrons passing
through an Aharonov–Bohm ring while interacting with a tunnel charge in a
double quantum dot (representing a charge qubit) which couples symmetrically
to both arms of the ring. For Aharonov–Bohm flux AB = h/2e we find that
electrons can only be transmitted when they flip the charge qubit’s pseudospin
parity an odd number of times. The perfect correlations of the dynamics of the
pseudospin and individual electronic transmission and reflection events can be
used to entangle the charge qubit with an individual passing electron. |
the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
but the ignorant just can't grasp it............................ (janus; either read or perhaps find a new field to work in) |
Your record for understanding and relevance remains a perfect 0.
The article that you posted has NOTHING to do with gravity or general relativity. It is an article taking about quantum entanglement only, and gravity is not even part of the discussion.
Sir you are a troll. And not a very well informed troll at that, as you insult the mods and particupants while simultaneously making a fool of yourself. You don't even understand material that you post yourself. |
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| Bishadi |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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| DrRocket wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| kojax wrote: |
I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by?
Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy? |
how about looking into a new pub that is addressing the total potential when light and electrons combine
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the case that this energy average yields equal reflection and transmission probabilities R = T = 1/2, the final value of the concurrence after passage of
the electron is C(t =∞) = 1. In this case, maximal entanglement results during the passage of the electron through the system—independent of the precise dependence of the stationary concurrence in the energetic range of the wave packet. This entanglement enhancement is only possible because the scattering matrix S retains its sparse structure (9) for all energies. |
the mods around here don't read or comprehend much past the 50's
so before the peanut gallery around here removes this post i will PM the link 2u.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/9/3/067/njp7_3_067.pdf?request-id=ff63f40e-f18d-48b8-abd2-922826f23e94
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Entanglement between static and flying qubits in an
Aharonov–Bohm double electrometer
Henning Schomerus and John P Robinson
Department of Physics, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YB, UK
New Journal of Physics 9 (2007) 67
Received 10 November 2006
Published 21 March 2007
Online at http://www.njp.org/
doi:10.1088/1367-2630/9/3/067
Abstract. We consider the phase-coherent transport of electrons passing
through an Aharonov–Bohm ring while interacting with a tunnel charge in a
double quantum dot (representing a charge qubit) which couples symmetrically
to both arms of the ring. For Aharonov–Bohm flux AB = h/2e we find that
electrons can only be transmitted when they flip the charge qubit’s pseudospin
parity an odd number of times. The perfect correlations of the dynamics of the
pseudospin and individual electronic transmission and reflection events can be
used to entangle the charge qubit with an individual passing electron. |
the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
but the ignorant just can't grasp it............................ (janus; either read or perhaps find a new field to work in) |
Your record for understanding and relevance remains a perfect 0.
The article that you posted has NOTHING to do with gravity or general relativity. It is an article taking about quantum entanglement only, and gravity is not even part of the discussion.
Sir you are a troll. And not a very well informed troll at that, as you insult the mods and particupants while simultaneously making a fool of yourself. You don't even understand material that you post yourself. |
i tink the comprehension of reading is where you fail any who read your posts.
ie..... did you read? the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
if you can suggest that this property is unequivocally HAVING NOTHING TO DO with gravity, then you have a case.
otherwise; like most of the complacent who wish to make claims against what is currently occuring within the science, basically because you retain old beliefs over the CURRENT COMMUNITY; then shut up!
THIS IS A SCIENCE section; not your psuedo beliefs that are "randomly uncertain"
i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up!
GOT IT?
these people are asking questions (the OP) and you don't have a clue what is occurring all over the world.
THAT IS NOT MY FAULT! |
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| Bishadi |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| DrRocket wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| kojax wrote: |
I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by?
Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy? |
how about looking into a new pub that is addressing the total potential when light and electrons combine
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the case that this energy average yields equal reflection and transmission probabilities R = T = 1/2, the final value of the concurrence after passage of
the electron is C(t =∞) = 1. In this case, maximal entanglement results during the passage of the electron through the system—independent of the precise dependence of the stationary concurrence in the energetic range of the wave packet. This entanglement enhancement is only possible because the scattering matrix S retains its sparse structure (9) for all energies. |
the mods around here don't read or comprehend much past the 50's
so before the peanut gallery around here removes this post i will PM the link 2u.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/9/3/067/njp7_3_067.pdf?request-id=ff63f40e-f18d-48b8-abd2-922826f23e94
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Entanglement between static and flying qubits in an
Aharonov–Bohm double electrometer
Henning Schomerus and John P Robinson
Department of Physics, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YB, UK
New Journal of Physics 9 (2007) 67
Received 10 November 2006
Published 21 March 2007
Online at http://www.njp.org/
doi:10.1088/1367-2630/9/3/067
Abstract. We consider the phase-coherent transport of electrons passing
through an Aharonov–Bohm ring while interacting with a tunnel charge in a
double quantum dot (representing a charge qubit) which couples symmetrically
to both arms of the ring. For Aharonov–Bohm flux AB = h/2e we find that
electrons can only be transmitted when they flip the charge qubit’s pseudospin
parity an odd number of times. The perfect correlations of the dynamics of the
pseudospin and individual electronic transmission and reflection events can be
used to entangle the charge qubit with an individual passing electron. |
the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
but the ignorant just can't grasp it............................ (janus; either read or perhaps find a new field to work in) |
Your record for understanding and relevance remains a perfect 0.
The article that you posted has NOTHING to do with gravity or general relativity. It is an article taking about quantum entanglement only, and gravity is not even part of the discussion.
Sir you are a troll. And not a very well informed troll at that, as you insult the mods and particupants while simultaneously making a fool of yourself. You don't even understand material that you post yourself. |
i tink the comprehension of reading is where you fail any who read your posts.
ie..... did you read? the point of this post is that gravity itself must be addressed at the micro scale and the property that is truly being that gravity of mass is being observed all over the world
if you can suggest that this property is unequivocally HAVING NOTHING TO DO with gravity, then you have a case.
otherwise; like most of the complacent who wish to make claims against what is currently occuring within the science, basically because you retain old beliefs over the CURRENT COMMUNITY; then shut up!
THIS IS A SCIENCE section; not your psuedo beliefs that are "randomly uncertain"
i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up!
GOT IT?
these people are asking questions (the OP) and you don't have a clue what is occurring all over the world.
THAT IS NOT MY FAULT! |
here is what can assist with the other guys posts (so they can comprehend how momentum is applied)
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Vittoria Petrillo1 , Giorgia Alberti1, Luca Celardo1, Francesco Cerutti1, Silvano Franchi1 and Vittorio Mariani1
(1) Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare, Dipartimento di Fisica, Universit‘a degli Studi di Milano, 20133 Milano, Italy
Received: 25 May 2005 Accepted: 12 December 2005
Abstract The effect of a position measurement on one component of a two-particle wave packet in a regularized space-momentum entangled state is analyzed. The wave packet interacts in the physical space with a potential barrier. When a position or momentum measurement is performed on one particle, a consequent strong modification of the dynamics of the other particle occurs. |
mass is affected by the entangled state, no matter the d/t................. |
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| Bishadi |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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| I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. |
yes............
any mass above absolute rest (BEC cold) is with energy UPON THAT MASS!
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Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? |
YES................. than is what "entangled energy between mass" IS; and this IS being PROVING RIGHT NOW all over the world
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| So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by? |
crossing line of sight and flux (magnetic/electric (EM) potential upon mass DOES affect it; that is why mass increases its speed when dropped)
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Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy? |
BOTH! |
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| Bishadi |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Does light exert a gravitational force? |
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| kojax wrote: |
| I'm just trying to be clear on this. I know light has no mass, but it does have energy. |
yes............
any mass above absolute rest (BEC cold) is with energy UPON THAT MASS!
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Energy alone is enough to exert a gravitational force, isn't it? |
YES................. than is what "entangled energy between mass" IS; and this IS being PROVING RIGHT NOW all over the world
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| So, while I rather doubt it's substantial enough to have much of an effect on things, light should still exert a small force when it passes by? |
crossing line of sight and flux (magnetic/electric (EM) potential upon mass DOES affect it; that is why mass increases its speed when dropped)
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Or is gravity just based on mass, instead of mass + energy?BOTH! |
any post discounting, changing or even of this being deleted by the shaddy moderation; is what i call foul
because every line above can be observed and being defined RIGHT NOW in the CURRENT sciences
any bets?
nothing above is unique to ME because any can find what is being represented themselves or
just ask, and i have enough pubs from all over the world to bring ya up to speed. |
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| Bishadi |
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| I predict that you won't be with us for much longer bishadi. |
and i could care less
because i predict not a person on this site can prove what is being suggested is incorrect and it just pisses off the punks who will not accept the fact
the sciences are RIGHT NOW going through a paradigm shift
and you just don't know it!
ie............... really think about it folks, if there was going to be a combining frame do you believe that gravity itself must be defined? |
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| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
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i predict not a person on this site can prove what is being suggested is incorrect and it just pisses off the punks who will not accept the fact
the sciences are RIGHT NOW going through a paradigm shift
and you just don't know it! |
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| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
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notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
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notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
but let's deal with the thread title:
Does light exert a gravitational force?
an absolute................................. YES |
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
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notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
but let's deal with the thread title:
Does light exert a gravitational force?
an absolute................................. YES |
almost forgot...................... anyone wonder where, why and how any individual would come up with the question of the OP?
giggle giggle
because all over the world.................... the children, the students, the real seekers are doing the homework without the oppression (we have the internet)
and for any who wish to know; for the last 10 years i have touched every state besides Hawaii and alaska and have be upon more campuses than any single human being alive within the USA; handing out material
to give them a chance
(i sign nothing so few will ever know where it came from)
see my pride? |
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
4 |
notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
You have no point.
Your scientific statements are completely wrong. You clearly understand nothing of basic science.
We can deal with the science quite well, thank you.
The mods and admins can deal with the forum, including you apparently. |
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| Bishadi |
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| DrRocket wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
4 |
notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
You have no point.
Your scientific statements are completely wrong. You clearly understand nothing of basic science.
We can deal with the science quite well, thank you.
The mods and admins can deal with the forum, including you apparently. |
that is your second post on a thread from someone asking
Does light exert a gravitational force?
and this is your 1st post
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Your record for understanding and relevance remains a perfect 0.
The article that you posted has NOTHING to do with gravity or general relativity. It is an article taking about quantum entanglement only, and gravity is not even part of the discussion.
Sir you are a troll. And not a very well informed troll at that, as you insult the mods and particupants while simultaneously making a fool of yourself. You don't even understand material that you post yourself. |
on a thread of someone asking
Does light exert a gravitational force?
and like oooosual................. do the mods correct the trolls who do nothing but rant about everyone else (all ad hominem)?
No they don't, i have to!
WHY?
because i maintain a greater INTEGRITY of observing what i say to 'the children' who could be truly inquiring
while the trolls are too busy trying to show what their toilet paper on the wall means (their degree)........ That they truly never cared about 'science' but that they can follow the rules of the 'community' of the complacent.
Students' don't ever believe you are less than even ONE of these so called professors!
You have the internet and most of them can't get past the idea that what they have been led to believe is incorrect. (my pride is to fight for the future, theirs is to protect their vanity)
"We the people" are the future and to see the world as it is RIGHT NOW: them of the old FAILED!
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| Bishadi wrote: |
| DrRocket wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| SkinWalker wrote: |
| Bishadi wrote: |
| i will tell you and any on this forum, either read and catch up to the current, or shut the fvk up! |
That sort of attitude isn't going to fly here. Your trolling is coming to an end.
I'm starting the countdown from:
4 |
notice, it is not the science that the mods, the professors or any doctor and admin can deal with?
r ya all seeing the point? |
You have no point.
Your scientific statements are completely wrong. You clearly understand nothing of basic science.
We can deal with the science quite well, thank you.
The mods and admins can deal with the forum, including you apparently. |
that is your second post on a thread from someone asking
Does light exert a gravitational force?
and this is your 1st post
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Your record for understanding and relevance remains a perfect 0.
The article that you posted has NOTHING to do with gravity or general relativity. It is an article taking about quantum entanglement only, and gravity is not even part of the discussion.
Sir you are a troll. And not a very well informed troll at that, as you insult the mods and particupants while simultaneously making a fool of yourself. You don't even understand material that you post yourself. |
on a thread of someone asking
Does light exert a gravitational force?
and like oooosual................. do the mods correct the trolls who do nothing but rant about everyone else (all ad hominem)?
No they don't, i have to!
WHY?
because i maintain a greater INTEGRITY of observing what i say to 'the children' who could be truly inquiring
while the trolls are too busy trying to show what their toilet paper on the wall means (their degree)........ That they truly never cared about 'science' but that they can follow the rules of the 'community' of the complacent.
Students' don't ever believe you are less than even ONE of these so called professors!
You have the internet and most of them can't get past the idea that what they have been led to believe is incorrect. (my pride is to fight for the future, theirs is to protect their vanity)
"We the people" are the future and to see the world as it is RIGHT NOW: them of the old FAILED! |
nonsense |
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