Thread: LaTeX support?

Seriously, could we get LaTeX support up in here? It looks like mimeTeX should be real easy to set up.

That would be awesome if I didn't have to type out a million parentheses and hope that what I wrote is readable, and make integrals that look like this:

5^1/2∫_{sqrt (2x-5)}^{sqrt (9x+100)} x⁵ dx

Although I havn't done that type of thing yet.

I was just thinking about this the other day and that I needed to get it done. Keep hounding me (without being excessive) and I'll make it so.

IS

Thanks for taking note!

I'm going to do personal maths learning so if you guys would help me too, along with LaTeX that would be great!

Currently my square roots here are this: /--------- :|

If you've got math questions, we're happy to help in the math forum.

Here's your first lesson. You can use the character √ to represent a radical. If you don't want to look it up, you can use exponents. If you don't want to use exponents, use sqrt. Never use /-----.

√2 = 2^.5 = 2^(1/2) = 2^.5 = 2^1/2 = sqrt(2)

/-----2 = nonsense

The √ is a good character, as you can make it represent arbitrary roots with a little work:

³√8 = 2

Exponents are even better, because you can represent any power:

e^iπ = -1

Thanks serpicojr . See you in the maths topic :-D.

Be careful! There's a really stupid discussion about dividing by 0 going on right now!

I've seen :-D. But thanks for the heads up.

Was going to try and get this add on done this weekend, got a bit tied up. Will shoot for the upcoming weekend.

I had latex support once but after a few hours it just got too hot and sweaty and i had to take it off.

Don't know what all the fuss is about. PVC is SO much better

Thanks (In)Sanity!

Selene, we mathematicians love latex because it keeps all our dirty little thoughts where they belong.

Originally Posted by serpicojr

Thanks (In)Sanity!

Selene, we mathematicians love latex because it keeps all our dirty little thoughts where they belong.

Oooh, and where precisely is that?

Will latex save me from a life of dirtiness and sin?

Last time i slipped into some latex i had a revelation and this happened:

Let $D$ be a subset of $\bf R$ and let
$f \colon D \to \mathbf{R}$ be a real-valued function on
$D$. The function $f$ is said to be \emph{continuous} on
$D$ if, for all $\epsilon > 0$ and for all $x \in D$,
there exists some $\delta > 0$ (which may depend on $x$)
such that if $y \in D$ satisfies
\[ |y - x| < \delta \]
then
\[ |f(y) - f(x)| < \epsilon. \]

And it just made me want to get dirtier!

What am i doing wrong?

The weekend is here...(In)Sanity please sort it out for us before Selene loses it completely! :P

Your doing nothing wrong. You might need a new fetish .

Originally Posted by bit4bit

The weekend is here...(In)Sanity please sort it out for us before Selene loses it completely! :P

I've already lost it! I've been looking for it all night.



"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare."
René Descartes

I have to go to a leather, lace and feathers party in two weeks, i wonder if latex will work as well? Selene, its a pity your not over here visiting family, we could go latex shopping together. :wink:

Originally Posted by Selene

Let $D$ be a subset of $\bf R$ and let
$f \colon D \to \mathbf{R}$ be a real-valued function on
$D$. The function $f$ is said to be \emph{continuous} on
$D$ if, for all $\epsilon > 0$ and for all $x \in D$,
there exists some $\delta > 0$ (which may depend on $x$)
such that if $y \in D$ satisfies
\[ |y - x| < \delta \]
then
\[ |f(y) - f(x)| < \epsilon. \]

And it just made me want to get dirtier!

That just made me hot.

Originally Posted by GrowlingDog

I have to go to a leather, lace and feathers party in two weeks, i wonder if latex will work as well? Selene, its a pity your not over here visiting family, we could go latex shopping together. :wink:

There are plenty of online shops!

Do you have a web-cam? 8)

Originally Posted by Selene

Originally Posted by GrowlingDog

I have to go to a leather, lace and feathers party in two weeks, i wonder if latex will work as well? Selene, its a pity your not over here visiting family, we could go latex shopping together. :wink:

There are plenty of online shops!

Do you have a web-cam? 8)

No, i dont even have skype worked out yet.

OK, well it appears my Sunday blew by at a phenomenal rate. I just looked at the clock and went, damn...weekend is over. That being said I'm going to try and get this added during the week. Sorry for the delay. I see however it's creating an interesting topic of conversation.

IS

How bout that latex? I just typed up two hours worth of math.

haha I know how ya feel, I hate typing and reading these tedious non-latex characters.

"What do we want??"
"LATEX!"
"When do we want it??"
"NOW!"

I'm actually thinking I need to upgrade the entire forum. It's getting a bit out of date in terms of features. I had in laws from Thursday to Monday morning, kind of put a damper on anything computer related.

Aww c'mon Insanity...don't let family get in the way of your computer time :P

What kinda features you got in mind?

if you want to use latex you could always go to the site : www.mathim.com

it's basically a latex based web chat, so you can go in there and start typing what you want to say using latex and even preview what you typed.
having done that you can then right click on the preview, save the picture and then go to a site like www.imageshack.us and go through all that nonsense to insert a link in between some img tags and then you're left with this,



probably seems like a bit of effort so it's more of for the sake of presentation i guess.

Latex is so nice! Lets get it! It will be cool!

Latex fun fact #1:
The equivilant of typing
x < sub > 1 < / sub > < sup > 2 < / sup > + y < sub > 1 < / sub > < sup > 2 < / sup > = 10 < sup > 2 < / sup >

in Latex is:
x_1^2 + y_1^2 = 10

WOW! That's so neat! And it looks pretty too!

\sum_{n=0}^\infty f(x_n)\Delta x=\int_a^bf(x)dx is how you code what wallaby posted.

now that i'm at uni i think i'll be using more and more of this latex thing, as my handwritting is rather messy.

anyone know where i can get my hands on something i can actually install on my computer?

Originally Posted by wallaby

now that i'm at uni i think i'll be using more and more of this latex thing, as my handwritting is rather messy.

anyone know where i can get my hands on something i can actually install on my computer?

http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/doc.html

http://www.math.vanderbilt.edu/~sche...d/list_tex.htm

http://www.download.com/Highlight/30...ml?tag=lst-0-7

The first one looks possibly the best

But don't ask me i only use latex to cover my skin

:wink:

Originally Posted by wallaby

now that i'm at uni i think i'll be using more and more of this latex thing, as my handwritting is rather messy.

anyone know where i can get my hands on something i can actually install on my computer?

If you have Linux or a Mac, it will already have LaTeX I believe (at least mine did...).

Cheers

Macs don't came with any sort of TeX complier. In any case, many Mac users--for example, me--like TeXShop. It's pretty stripped down and assumes you're decently comfortable with the language.

unfortunately i'm pretty sheltered and have only ever used windows.

Originally Posted by wallaby

unfortunately i'm pretty sheltered and have only ever used windows.

I refer yet again to the link-

http://www.miktex.org/

Are you stupid or just plain ignorant?

Originally Posted by Selene

I refer yet again to the link-

http://www.miktex.org/

Are you stupid or just plain ignorant?

wat's a ingorant?

i'm sorry Selene for rudely forgeting to thank you for the useful links you provided... thanks.

Originally Posted by wallaby

Originally Posted by Selene

I refer yet again to the link-

http://www.miktex.org/

Are you stupid or just plain ignorant?

wat's a ingorant?

i'm sorry Selene for rudely forgeting to thank you for the useful links you provided... thanks.

Ok damn...i'm gonna have to let you off a botty spank now! I was getting my right hand nicely warmed up too

A mathematical friend of mine uses the miktex editor and says he gets on with it fine in windows

I recommend MiKTeX, too. However, it isn't editor--it's everything but. If you don't want to code things up in a plain old text editor, you'll need to get a TeX editor in addition to MiKTeX.

Originally Posted by Selene

Ok damn...i'm gonna have to let you off a botty spank now! I was getting my right hand nicely warmed up too.

well now i'm going to be a tease,

Originally Posted by serpicojr

I recommend MiKTeX, too. However, it isn't editor--it's everything but. If you don't want to code things up in a plain old text editor, you'll need to get a TeX editor in addition to MiKTeX.

well now with the power of MiKTeX and WinEdt i'm going to get cracking

Wallaby, If you have microsoft office, you should be able to insert and edit equations already with microsft equation. In Word go to insert>object>Microsoft equation. You can also use it in Wordpad too by the same route, which I prefer over Word for somethings. You might have to download it first. You can also download an expanded version called MathType. You will have to purchase this upgrade....but if you know where to look. To be honest Microsoft equation is good enough for most things anyway.

Wallaby: WinEDT is pretty good--that's what I used on my PC. The registration reminders are pretty annoying, although you can probably disable them pretty easily.

Bit4bit: Once you've used TeX, you'll never go back to the MS equation editor.

Originally Posted by bit4bit

Wallaby, If you have microsoft office, you should be able to insert and edit equations already with microsft equation. In Word go to insert>object>Microsoft equation. You can also use it in Wordpad too by the same route, which I prefer over Word for somethings. You might have to download it first. You can also download an expanded version called MathType. You will have to purchase this upgrade....but if you know where to look. To be honest Microsoft equation is good enough for most things anyway.

i probably would have to download it as i'm using Microsoft Office 97, couldn't be bothered paying for or stealing 2007.

Originally Posted by serpicojr

The registration reminders are pretty annoying, although you can probably disable them pretty easily.

i havn't had a single reminder yet, i guess i'll enjoy the lack of interuption while it lasts.

I think most versions of office have Microsoft equation built in already even the older ones...but I could be wrong.

Serpicojr, I've never used TeX before (Well, I've used LaTeX), but I'll give it a try. What is so special about TeX compared to MS equation? TeX is another 'language' right, as opposed to clicking on symbols like MS equation? It's free to download anyway so I'll check it out at some point.

When I say TeX, I'm also talking about LaTeX. You've used it, you say. I guess you're not impressed? Clicking on symbols may user friendly, but finding the buttons as opposed to typing a command is time consuming, and formatting things in MS Equation is a nightmare.

I've only ever used TeX/LaTeX online, whereas for all my work I've used MS equation editor. I'll admit, I'm not the most experienced person with LaTeX, since the main maths forum I come to is here, and we don't have it!

Probably if I used it more often, I would be able to bang it out second nature, but in the mean time I prefer MS equation. I prefer either over nothing though.

Originally Posted by bit4bit

I've only ever used TeX/LaTeX online, whereas for all my work I've used MS equation editor. I'll admit, I'm not the most experienced person with LaTeX, since the main maths forum I come to is here, and we don't have it!

Probably if I used it more often, I would be able to bang it out second nature, but in the mean time I prefer MS equation. I prefer either over nothing though.

I only ever use latex on my bottom because it clings well and makes it appear smaller.

and as for banging it out....well i prefer S&M equation, it's much more fun.

Originally Posted by Selene

I only ever use latex on my bottom because it clings well and makes it appear smaller.

Do you throw your latex out when it gets old and stale?

Originally Posted by Selene

Originally Posted by bit4bit

I've only ever used TeX/LaTeX online, whereas for all my work I've used MS equation editor. I'll admit, I'm not the most experienced person with LaTeX, since the main maths forum I come to is here, and we don't have it!

Probably if I used it more often, I would be able to bang it out second nature, but in the mean time I prefer MS equation. I prefer either over nothing though.

I only ever use latex on my bottom because it clings well and makes it appear smaller.

and as for banging it out....well i prefer S&M equation, it's much more fun.

Yeh I know all about you Northhampton girlies. :P

Originally Posted by serpicojr

Originally Posted by Selene

I only ever use latex on my bottom because it clings well and makes it appear smaller.

Do you throw your latex out when it gets old and stale?

Oh no the older it gets the better because it becomes more flexible and you can always give it a good buffing to make it look shiny and new again

Originally Posted by bit4bit

Originally Posted by Selene

Originally Posted by bit4bit

I've only ever used TeX/LaTeX online, whereas for all my work I've used MS equation editor. I'll admit, I'm not the most experienced person with LaTeX, since the main maths forum I come to is here, and we don't have it!

Probably if I used it more often, I would be able to bang it out second nature, but in the mean time I prefer MS equation. I prefer either over nothing though.

I only ever use latex on my bottom because it clings well and makes it appear smaller.

and as for banging it out....well i prefer S&M equation, it's much more fun.

Yeh I know all about you Northhampton girlies. :P

Oh do you now?

Pray, tell me more?

P.s Northampton has only one h, the only time it has two is when the Northampton girlies are out of breath.

Update on this topic (the original topic)

The forum will be upgrading to phpbb 3.xx soon. I'll release a beta test site to start and once that is all worked out will release the beta version to production. I hope it has support for latex or at least an easy way to add it.

Cool.

Sounds good

LaTeX?

Originally Posted by serpicojr

LaTeX?

I'm in the process now (as in after I type this) of working more on the beta site. I may just put it out as is and see if anyone likes it..etc. I have to be careful I don't cause conflicts with the old site and the beta one having information the old one can't read..etc. This site has been so hacked up from the stock phpbb.

Right, and now it's July. And.........?

I like this site, but when trying to do some simple maths, it takes half an hour of subbing, supping, hex-coding etc.

It really puts people off. PLEASE implement Latex here.

As you know, I(S), this is by no means the first time of asking (nor is it the first time of your promising).

Why the delay? I mean, WHY?

It's a long weekend, so I'll get this done. I've been holding off on it waiting to see if I should go with the newer phpbb. Turns out it doesn't have Latex support either. Hmm. In any event this will get done this weekend even if I have to pass out from lack of sleep

Originally Posted by Guitarist

Right, and now it's July. And.........?

I like this site, but when trying to do some simple maths, it takes half an hour of subbing, supping, hex-coding etc.

It really puts people off. PLEASE implement Latex here.

As you know, I(S), this is by no means the first time of asking (nor is it the first time of your promising).

Why the delay? I mean, WHY?

Thanks very much!

Originally Posted by serpicojr

Thanks very much!

This is 99% done, just fighting with ImageMagik and Ghostscript at the moment. I can get it to produce the latex GIF images, just having a hard time getting PHP to do it. Some kind of weird path issue. I'll get it figured out.

Happy now

Originally Posted by (In)Sanity

Happy now

Extremely!

Thank you very much indeed!

I would just like to give a much belated, but enthusiastic

/ cheer!