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    Every time I look in on a thread in physics or astronomy that's more that 3 pages long - it's usually about 6 posts that are worth reading, and about 30 useless flamer posts (counting the uninformed opening post - since it is technically a question).

    The question asker doesn't always back down immediately. I get it. But letting people get away with simple posts like "you're dumb" "shut up and leave" posts fills this forum up with useless garbage, instead of content.

    It should be against the rules to post anything in the hard sciences forum unless it contains information specifically about the topic being discussed. Or failing that, one "you're a crank" statement per thread should be the limit. IE. if someone else already said it, then you don't get to say it too.

    I'm just getting bored of clicking on a thread, seeing one guy say "you're a crank", and then 20 more guys saying "yeah. He's a crank" and nothing about the actual topic.

    If it bores me and I'm a regular visitor, just imagine how much it must bore and annoy lurkers and/or new visitors?


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    In some cases the flame war has not even got anything to do with the asker or his question but is the result of personal vendettas between members instead.
    In some cases I have seen it where none of the people engaged in the flaming had any interest in the OP at all and only jumped on the thread to flame each other.


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    I'm probably as guilty as anyone but that's because I find ignorant cranks not only annoying but insulting to myself and anyone who has devoted any time to actual study rather than simply making stuff up, but believe it or not I agree with you! Over the last week or two I've really been trying to just ignore the idiots but it's difficult... Maybe there should also be a three strikes rule, once you've had three mod warnings or three threads moved from the hard science area to the bullshit zone (trash, pseudo and personal theories) you get a suspension, three suspensions gets you a perma ban...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    I'm probably as guilty as anyone but that's because I find ignorant cranks not only annoying but insulting to myself and anyone who has devoted any time to actual study rather than simply making stuff up, but believe it or not I agree with you! Over the last week or two I've really been trying to just ignore the idiots but it's difficult... Maybe there should also be a three strikes rule, once you've had three mod warnings or three threads moved from the hard science area to the bullshit zone (trash, pseudo and personal theories) you get a suspension, three suspensions gets you a perma ban...
    I think you have made a hundred or more posts that would have earned you what you are wishing on others then, the one I just quoted included.
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    ...and this is one of the idiots posters I'm trying to ignore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    Every time I look in on a thread in physics or astronomy that's more that 3 pages long - it's usually about 6 posts that are worth reading, and about 30 useless flamer posts (counting the uninformed opening post - since it is technically a question).

    The question asker doesn't always back down immediately. I get it. But letting people get away with simple posts like "you're dumb" "shut up and leave" posts fills this forum up with useless garbage, instead of content.

    It should be against the rules to post anything in the hard sciences forum unless it contains information specifically about the topic being discussed. Or failing that, one "you're a crank" statement per thread should be the limit. IE. if someone else already said it, then you don't get to say it too.

    I'm just getting bored of clicking on a thread, seeing one guy say "you're a crank", and then 20 more guys saying "yeah. He's a crank" and nothing about the actual topic.

    If it bores me and I'm a regular visitor, just imagine how much it must bore and annoy lurkers and/or new visitors?
    There are a few regulars who do this continually and for some reason the people who will stand up will get banned and the ones who continually call others cranks and trolls and woo and such are allowed to keep doing so. There seem to be some here like Markus and Janus who rise above this on their own but do nothing to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    ...and this is one of the idiots posters I'm trying to ignore...
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    Well Professor?
    She does have a point.
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    What point? Show me where I have been warned or had threads/ posts relocated for crankery, her first post in this thread was obviously false. She was just trolling (as usual), and has in fact just come back from a one month suspension for derailing physics threads with crap and being a nuisance. Maybe I shouldn't have responded but as I said I am trying but find it difficult to ignore provocation by nitwits. Edit, response to post 10, reread what I posted, I have stated that I agree with the OP and I'm trying to refrain from getting into pointless arguments with the sillier posters, the only point Mayflow made is that her opinions and posts are divorced from reality (whether this is due to being deliberately provocative or just plain dumb is an open question but not one I will be wasting any more time on).
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    You and Mayflow. AlexG and Robbitybob.
    What difference does it make (rhet.).
    You all start trollfights that have nothing to do with the OP and take up 10 or 20 posts with nothing but bickering.
    Exactly what the OP was suggesting there should be a rule against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    What point? Show me where I have been warned or had threads/ posts relocated for crankery, her first post in this thread was obviously false. She was just trolling (as usual), and has in fact just come back from a one month suspension for derailing physics threads with crap and being a nuisance. Maybe I shouldn't have responded but as I said I am trying but find it difficult to ignore provocation by nitwits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    What point? Show me where I have been warned or had threads/ posts relocated for crankery, her first post in this thread was obviously false. She was just trolling (as usual), and has in fact just come back from a one month suspension for derailing physics threads with crap and being a nuisance. Maybe I shouldn't have responded but as I said I am trying but find it difficult to ignore provocation by nitwits.
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    You are part of it too Mayflow.
    I know all you guys love your jousting, but Kojax is just asking that you guys not derail the more serious questions with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
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    What point? Show me where I have been warned or had threads/ posts relocated for crankery, her first post in this thread was obviously false. She was just trolling (as usual), and has in fact just come back from a one month suspension for derailing physics threads with crap and being a nuisance. Maybe I shouldn't have responded but as I said I am trying but find it difficult to ignore provocation by nitwits.
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    You are part of it too Mayflow.
    I know all you guys love your jousting, but Kojax is just asking that you guys not derail the more serious questions with it.
    I thought he was more talking about the silly name calling which PHDemon has continued to do in every single post he has made on this topic. I gave up answering and just quoted his posts for examples. If he makes better posts, the examples he sets will be better as well.
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    Kojack's idea, even if it is just to make the threads more readable, is worth consideration.
    I think I made my points well and I have nothing else to add except that there is nothing that attracts internet trolls as much as seeing other trolls playing.
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    It might help the cause Dan, if you stop calling people trolls you know? Kojack's op was about people calling others "cranks" but calling them (us) "trolls" is hardly any better. You can call me May or Mayflow, though! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    Every time I look in on a thread in physics or astronomy that's more that 3 pages long - it's usually about 6 posts that are worth reading, and about 30 useless flamer posts (counting the uninformed opening post - since it is technically a question).

    The question asker doesn't always back down immediately. I get it. But letting people get away with simple posts like "you're dumb" "shut up and leave" posts fills this forum up with useless garbage, instead of content.

    It should be against the rules to post anything in the hard sciences forum unless it contains information specifically about the topic being discussed. Or failing that, one "you're a crank" statement per thread should be the limit. IE. if someone else already said it, then you don't get to say it too.

    I'm just getting bored of clicking on a thread, seeing one guy say "you're a crank", and then 20 more guys saying "yeah. He's a crank" and nothing about the actual topic.

    If it bores me and I'm a regular visitor, just imagine how much it must bore and annoy lurkers and/or new visitors?
    I couldn't agree with you more. Great and accurate post!
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    I agree that the back and forth stuff which is of a personal nature and not related to the topic needs to stop. Someone needs to be the bigger (wo)man and let it go.
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    There is a very simple solution: marcbo, Noa, Matflow should be banned from posting in the main forum. They can post to their heart content in the Trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    I agree that the back and forth stuff which is of a personal nature and not related to the topic needs to stop. Someone needs to be the bigger (wo)man and let it go.
    To be the change you want to see, does not work if others are still into calling everyone they don't agree with, or understand "cranks" - I don't believe I have ever called someone a "crank" but that sure has not stopped them from calling me and many others one. I have never seen where calling another a crank or a troll or an idiot or ignorant has ever helped anyone or been of positive use to any situation. One would thing that when an experiment never has nor never will work, one may think his or her theory may have some flaws, wouldn't one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    I agree that the back and forth stuff which is of a personal nature and not related to the topic needs to stop. Someone needs to be the bigger (wo)man and let it go.
    To be the change you want to see, does not work if others are still into calling everyone they don't agree with, or understand "cranks" - I don't believe I have ever called someone a "crank" but that sure has not stopped them from calling me and many others one. I have never seen where calling another a crank or a troll or an idiot or ignorant has ever helped anyone or been of positive use to any situation. One would thing that when an experiment never has nor never will work, one may think his or her theory may have some flaws, wouldn't one?
    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    I agree that the back and forth stuff which is of a personal nature and not related to the topic needs to stop. Someone needs to be the bigger (wo)man and let it go.
    To be the change you want to see, does not work if others are still into calling everyone they don't agree with, or understand "cranks" - I don't believe I have ever called someone a "crank" but that sure has not stopped them from calling me and many others one. I have never seen where calling another a crank or a troll or an idiot or ignorant has ever helped anyone or been of positive use to any situation. One would thing that when an experiment never has nor never will work, one may think his or her theory may have some flaws, wouldn't one?
    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    I don't think you're right about that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    I agree that the back and forth stuff which is of a personal nature and not related to the topic needs to stop. Someone needs to be the bigger (wo)man and let it go.
    To be the change you want to see, does not work if others are still into calling everyone they don't agree with, or understand "cranks" - I don't believe I have ever called someone a "crank" but that sure has not stopped them from calling me and many others one. I have never seen where calling another a crank or a troll or an idiot or ignorant has ever helped anyone or been of positive use to any situation. One would thing that when an experiment never has nor never will work, one may think his or her theory may have some flaws, wouldn't one?
    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    This is the site feedback forum. The last 4 or 5 posts I saw from you was on a topic called "Is all motion relative?" where all you did was call noa "crank" and other names. How is does that really fit into a science forum in your opinion. Janus and Markus did not stoop to that although I find them like super intelligent compared to you, so I consider you know very little other than to call people names.

    That sort of name calling did not belong to a physics forum, so I sought to redirect it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post

    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    I don't think you're right about that!
    Sure I am right, you know that you guys are posting fringe stuff, yet you persist. This is called trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post

    That sort of name calling did not belong to a physics forum, so I sought to redirect it here.
    You and your buddies stop posting crank stuff, we stop calling you on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    That sort of name calling did not belong to a physics forum, so I sought to redirect it here.
    You and your buddies stop posting crank stuff, we stop calling you on it.
    My buddies? I don't even know anyone on this forum. Either way, on the physics and science topics, calling other people names does no service to the topic. It doesn't here either and no one will respect you for it but at least you are not screwing up a topic about physics or science by doing nothing but childish name calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post

    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    I don't think you're right about that!
    Sure I am right, you know that you guys are posting fringe stuff, yet you persist. This is called trolling.
    You're wrong again. It is your prejudice against religious people that seems to be evident here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post

    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    I don't think you're right about that!
    Sure I am right, you know that you guys are posting fringe stuff, yet you persist. This is called trolling.
    You're wrong again. It is your prejudice against religious people that seems to be evident here.
    O goody, he found a way to call others another name - are we keeping him from doing this on forums where people would rather actually talk about science and physics instead of calling people names? Kojax - think we are helpig the forum here? The name callers are all invited here to shoot there name calling on mea or anyone else who is with it if they stop doing it where others are tired of that shise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    You're wrong again.
    Nope.

    It is your prejudice against religious people that seems to be evident here.
    It's more likely a "prejudice" against nutcases that continually post inane crap and fail to listen to (or perhaps grasp) reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    There is ample proof that you, Robbitybob, marcbo, Noa, post fringe stuff. You know it, everyone else knows it. So, keep your fringe stuff where it belongs (in Trash) and everyone will be happy.
    I don't think you're right about that!
    Sure I am right, you know that you guys are posting fringe stuff, yet you persist. This is called trolling.
    You're wrong again. It is your prejudice against religious people that seems to be evident here.
    I am not even religious though. Since I haven't seen a reason to call other people cranks and trolls and ignorant, and whatever all, I have no idea of what may be his criteria for doing so, or what value it may have for him or anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    You're wrong again.
    Nope.

    It is your prejudice against religious people that seems to be evident here.
    It's more likely a "prejudice" against nutcases that continually post inane crap and fail to listen to (or perhaps grasp) reason.
    If that is your idea of reason, it seems like the best option is that it isn't worth anything to me. Now can the name callers gather here and leave the people alone that want to talk about science instead of name calling? I think this is what Kojax and probably many other would like to see, and at present I am more than willing to just read the more scientific stuff without the childish name calling and just read on those topics without replying (unless I may want to pm a specific person for specific questions) - Duck, you and xyzt and and PHDemon are fucking up the real science forums with your name calling crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    That sort of name calling did not belong to a physics forum, so I sought to redirect it here.
    You and your buddies stop posting crank stuff, we stop calling you on it.
    My buddies? I don't even know anyone on this forum. Either way, on the physics and science topics, calling other people names does no service to the topic.
    I first post the science that debunks your crankery (by "you" I mean you and your fellow cranks). When you persist, I call you what you are.


    It doesn't here either and no one will respect you for it but at least you are not screwing up a topic about physics or science by doing nothing but childish name calling.
    The ones who "screw up the topic" are you and your crank "buddies". For example, Noa hijacked the "relative motion" thread. I pointed out he was wrong, he persisted, I called him what he is: a crank. Same applies to you, Robbitybob1, marcbo, etc. You and your buddies pollute the threads. With your ignorance, your incessant trolling and whining. Stop the behavior and you will not be called cranks anymore.

    Now can the name callers gather here and leave the people alone that want to talk about science instead of name calling?
    But you do NOT talk about science, you pollute the threads with your ignorant nonsense.This is the problem.
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    Cool just keep it to this forum (or trash) and I don't care what the crap you call me. I already said I will be content to just read the physics and science forums unles I want to privately ask someone. I figure that somehow you get invited by me to answer and just call me names, so just keep the name calling to here and to trash, pretty please? It does not belong on the forums where peole are trying to discuss science and physics, and that was what this topic was asking you to stop doing. I do not want you banned or warned, I just want you to grow the f up and be a decent human to others. If you want to lash it all out on me and then fine have at it, I won't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    It does not belong on the forums where peole are trying to discuss science and physics, .
    You are NOT discussing physics. You are simply posting crap, PRETENDING to be discussing physics. Stop doing that and you will no longer be called a crank and an ignorant. Do you think you can do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    It does not belong on the forums where peole are trying to discuss science and physics, .
    You are NOT discussing physics. You are simply posting crap, PRETENDING to be discussing physics. Stop doing that and you will no longer be called a crank and an ignorant. Do you think you can do that?
    Does the fact that I said I will just read and not post on those forums for now escape you? Does the fact that I said you can lambast me here all you want to escape you? Does the fact that I am far from the only one tired of the likes of you and just a few others going to forums where some are talking about science and physics and just calling others woo and other stupid assed names, make you yourself look stupid and not helping in the conversation also escape you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Now can the name callers gather here and leave the people alone that want to talk about science instead of name calling?
    This is another example of your selective reading.
    I have, and do, talk about science.
    I only resort to "name calling" when someone persists in posting inanities.

    Duck, you and xyzt and and PHDemon are fucking up the real science forums with your name calling crap.
    And the fact that YOU post nonsense instead of science is somehow irrelevant, is it?
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    Oh yes, let me have it! Jus keep it out of the forums where it does not belong - don't worry, I won't be there, but just take your frustrations out on me here, and stop screwing up science and physics topics by silly non useful name calling, pretty please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    and stop screwing up science and physics topics by silly non useful name calling, pretty please?
    Yeah sure.
    PROVIDED the f*ckwits also stay out of those topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    It does not belong on the forums where peole are trying to discuss science and physics, .
    You are NOT discussing physics. You are simply posting crap, PRETENDING to be discussing physics. Stop doing that and you will no longer be called a crank and an ignorant. Do you think you can do that?
    Does the fact that I said I will just read and not post on those forums for now escape you?
    It is good that you stopped posting BUT the other cranks CONTINUE posting. So , they get called on it. Actually, all this started with Noa hijacking the thread with his fringe claims, have you forgotten?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    and stop screwing up science and physics topics by silly non useful name calling, pretty please?
    Yeah sure.
    PROVIDED the f*ckwits also stay out of those topics.
    I can only speak for me, but your calling others names on those topics does not help those topics.

    Ditto for xytz. I will not post on those topics as I have promised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    I will not post on those topics as I have promised.
    Good. This is progress. So I will not call you a crank.
    The same treatment will apply to marcbo, Noa, etc. IF they stop polluting the main forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    I will not post on those topics as I have promised.
    Good. This is progress. So I will not call you a crank.
    The same treatment will apply to marcbo, Noa, etc. IF they stop polluting the main forum.
    I was hoping for a bit of a better trade, like where you would desist from calling others names on the main forum, but that is up to you. I will live up to what I promised, but I cannot promise for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    I will live up to what I promised, but I cannot promise for others.
    Good. I didn't ask you to speak for the others. Besides, they'll continue posting crap, it is in their blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzt View Post
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    I will live up to what I promised, but I cannot promise for others.
    Good. I didn't ask you to speak for the others. Besides, they'll continue posting crap, it is in their blood.
    But, do you still continue to react in the same way as to call them names rather than speak to whatever the subject may be? Not everyone is unable to change. If I have been open to change here, I am sure you can. Now are you open to be friends?
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    My solution to this problem will be to delete both the ignorant woo posted in hard science threads, and the flaming posts made in response. Don't be surprised if posts just disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    My solution to this problem will be to delete both the ignorant woo posted in hard science threads, and the flaming posts made in response. Don't be surprised if posts just disappear.
    Will this "solution" only be applied to the hard science subforums, or can we expect action on blatant false accusation directed at other members in other subforums as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    My solution to this problem will be to delete both the ignorant woo posted in hard science threads, and the flaming posts made in response. Don't be surprised if posts just disappear.
    Do you have the time for that?
    It sounds like a lot of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
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    My solution to this problem will be to delete both the ignorant woo posted in hard science threads, and the flaming posts made in response. Don't be surprised if posts just disappear.
    Do you have the time for that?
    It sounds like a lot of work.
    Well, it's easier than issuing ban threats, banning people, splitting off threads to pseudo, etc. Just highlight the offending posts, and hit delete.
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    Fair enough.
    Would you be willing to show us what it would look like in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    My solution to this problem will be to delete both the ignorant woo posted in hard science threads, and the flaming posts made in response. Don't be surprised if posts just disappear.
    Will this "solution" only be applied to the hard science subforums, or can we expect action on blatant false accusation directed at other members in other subforums as well?
    I don't think I'll do this in the politics forum. Too much chance of injecting my own political bias into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I don't think I'll do this in the politics forum. Too much chance of injecting my own political bias into it.
    I wasn't thinking of the Politics subforum specifically. In any case, political bias wouldn't be a factor since the action (if applied to other subforums) only focuses on whether false accusation is made by the accuser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Now are you open to be friends?
    Not with you, sorry. I mean no offense but my friends in this forum are all mainstream , knowledgeable people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
    Fair enough.
    Would you be willing to show us what it would look like in this thread?
    Here's one where I have cleaned up the last page. Still 5 pages to go.
    All Motion is Relative?
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    I saw that one, thanks.
    It does end up a bit disjointed but maybe if the posters see their posts getting deleted they will get the idea.
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    If it works and is not too much effort you might ally it with an automatic suspension when deletions build up to a certain amount in a certain timeframe .Otherwise some people could be tempted to bury you in posts just designed to thwart the mod.

    But you might need special software to do that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    If it works and is not too much effort you might ally it with an automatic suspension when deletions build up to a certain amount in a certain timeframe .Otherwise some people could be tempted to bury you in posts just deigned to thwart the mod.

    But you might need special software to do that .
    I don't think that will happen. I can see your point though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    If it works and is not too much effort you might ally it with an automatic suspension when deletions build up to a certain amount in a certain timeframe .Otherwise some people could be tempted to bury you in posts just deigned to thwart the mod.

    But you might need special software to do that .
    No special software required. When the moderator gets sufficiently aggravated, suspensions will happen.
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