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    There is another one of those replicator thingies on the users signed in board; IncubbopGop***, where the last three characters are a random alpha string.


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    Ooop, there's another one; Brown***


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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Ooop, there's another one; Brown***

    I often observe many Rosel***2u and Michael*** users in the List.
    I wonder what the purpose is of creating multiple accounts.
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    I suspect it's some sort of spam(bot) method.
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    It's a Michael*** this time.
    Anybody know what those are really about?
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    I don't really know, but it can't be good. I think I'll spend a bit of time wielding the ban hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I don't really know, but it can't be good. I think I'll spend a bit of time wielding the ban hammer.
    Thanks Harold. There's another now; mike***
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    I started deleting some accounts but there are actually thousands of the Rosel* ID's, so I gave up on it. I'm not sure what we're going to end up doing.
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    Are they all coming from one IP? Could you ban that IP? These things are easy for a human to spot in an alphabetised list, I'm not sure if that is easy or hard to tell a computer how. Can a custom script be inserted into the forum software? All that activity might be good for a Google rank, but wouldn't it bog down the server a little?
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted. One cell phone number can only have one account. And a text code is sent to the cell phone in order to confirm it is real and active and the code must be entered to activate the account.

    a lot of websites are going this way in order to prevent single users having multiple accounts. Of course a person may have more than one number but I don't think anyone would have thousands. you may get 2-3 tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted. One cell phone number can only have one account. And a text code is sent to the cell phone in order to confirm it is real and active and the code must be entered to activate the account.

    a lot of websites are going this way in order to prevent single users having multiple accounts. Of course a person may have more than one number but I don't think anyone would have thousands. you may get 2-3 tops.

    I think implementing such a feature in the software should be doable,
    but I doubt many people are willing to give their cell phone number (if they want join the Science Forum to actually get involved in the discussions).
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted. One cell phone number can only have one account. And a text code is sent to the cell phone in order to confirm it is real and active and the code must be entered to activate the account.

    a lot of websites are going this way in order to prevent single users having multiple accounts. Of course a person may have more than one number but I don't think anyone would have thousands. you may get 2-3 tops.
    I think implementing such a feature in the software should be doable,
    but I doubt many people are willing to give their cell phone number (if they want join the Science Forum to actually get involved in the discussions).
    I think more would be willing than you realize. Facebook is horribly popular and they require a phone number. It certainly isn't stopping people from using that "service".

    That and just about every site i use that I care about my account, i use my cell phone as a means of keeping my account secure. I have an exhusband stalker who tries to hack my accounts. so any site that provides text message verification and notification when unusual activity takes place, I opt into. My yahoo account has alerted me by text several times that there were login attempts from places like China, Russia, and Pakistan.
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    Well, I've refused to be on facebook so far and I've abandoned commenting at a couple of sites that switched to requiring FB for the login. I'm not the only one, I've noticed quite a change in the comments and especially who comments since that change at those places. Equally, I wouldn't sign up anywhere I had to give my phone number.

    It wouldn't be catastrophic to impose such a requirement here - but there would be some change in who does and doesn't participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted. One cell phone number can only have one account. And a text code is sent to the cell phone in order to confirm it is real and active and the code must be entered to activate the account.

    a lot of websites are going this way in order to prevent single users having multiple accounts. Of course a person may have more than one number but I don't think anyone would have thousands. you may get 2-3 tops.
    I think implementing such a feature in the software should be doable,
    but I doubt many people are willing to give their cell phone number (if they want join the Science Forum to actually get involved in the discussions).
    I think more would be willing than you realize. Facebook is horribly popular and they require a phone number. It certainly isn't stopping people from using that "service".

    That is certainly true, but Facebook is a highly active social media website, whilst the Science Forum is not.
    I do not know what the majority of the SF members thinks, but I would not provide my cell phone number if that was required for online registration.

    However, I agree with your reasoning that cell phones numbers can provide a better security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Are they all coming from one IP? Could you ban that IP? These things are easy for a human to spot in an alphabetised list, I'm not sure if that is easy or hard to tell a computer how. Can a custom script be inserted into the forum software? All that activity might be good for a Google rank, but wouldn't it bog down the server a little?
    I've banned a couple of IP addresses, but it's hard to tell if it worked. The members whose IP addresses were banned still have accounts that look normal, i.e., they don't become "banned members" so I'm not 100% sure that they can't post messages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Are they all coming from one IP? Could you ban that IP? These things are easy for a human to spot in an alphabetised list, I'm not sure if that is easy or hard to tell a computer how. Can a custom script be inserted into the forum software? All that activity might be good for a Google rank, but wouldn't it bog down the server a little?
    I've banned a couple of IP addresses, but it's hard to tell if it worked. The members whose IP addresses were banned still have accounts that look normal, i.e., they don't become "banned members" so I'm not 100% sure that they can't post messages.
    If I am not mistaken, banning the IP means they won't be able to load the site at all.
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    I think these are large bot networks which employ humans to solve captchas for them. I'll do some searching about how other boards tackle this issue without adding too much friction to new registrations (genuine ones).
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    I can't see an end to this spamming any time soon unfortunately. I think perhaps the only real way to combat spam altogether is to start making it really expensive for the spammers. I mean if every time someone sent an email or made a forum post they got charged for it (like a phone call or text), but the reciever gets the payment, then the spammers might seriously start to think twice. Everyone sending normal emails or making posts would just have the sending fees waved by the recipients. At least this way it would cost the spammers a fortune and we could all think to ourselves their bank accounts are slowly emptying and we're all getting a little bit richer, would be some kind of compensation for having to put up with the spam.
    Certainly I suspect we would have to put up with alot less of it for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I think these are large bot networks which employ humans to solve captchas for them.
    One thing I don't get is: What is the whole point of doing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJW View Post
    One thing I don't get is: What is the whole point of doing this?
    I think it is to get links with keywords onto forums and the comment sections of blogs and other websites. These are not always intended for humans to click them - after all, who will click a link buried in incomprehensible text - but to get search-engine spiders to see them and thus improve the target site's ranking by having links from other "high value" sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    bot networks which employ humans
    I have a bad feeling about this.
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    Hate to make your job harder, but I would drop this site in a second if I was required to give a phone number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I can't see an end to this spamming any time soon unfortunately. I think perhaps the only real way to combat spam altogether is to start making it really expensive for the spammers.

    Neither do I. The number of members has risen almost exponentially over the last 6 months (for those who are interested, I can provide the exact numbers).
    However, I think better security systems implemented in the forum software might be as effective as introducing payments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    I can't see an end to this spamming any time soon unfortunately. I think perhaps the only real way to combat spam altogether is to start making it really expensive for the spammers.

    Neither do I. The number of members has risen almost exponentially over the last 6 months (for those who are interested, I can provide the exact numbers).
    However, I think better security systems implemented in the forum software might be as effective as introducing payments.
    I would certainly agree about the better security, the idea of charging wasn't really a serious one. I thought some of you guys might just find the thought of spammers having to pay (literally) for their spam quite amusing.
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    There is another means of verification. A site my daughter used, called TreverSpace, for kids questioning their sexuality, had a means of protecting the kids from perverts by having what they called verified and unverified accounts. Most kids wouldn't have anything to do with people using unverified accounts and those account holders had very limited abilities to post or contact anyone. To be verified you'd be sent an email with a number code on it. you were expected to then write the number on a piece of paper, in large font, and hold it up in front of you to take a picture of yourself holding up the number. Your picture would then be verified by humans that you were indeed a young person and not a bot or dirty old pervert. This site requires that you leave the site when you turn 24.

    Obviously we don't have age restrictions but i think most spammers would be hard pressed to find a unique person to pose for a pic for each and every spam account they register. maybe admin could appoint one or two additional mods who's sole purpose would be to verify accounts and not any mod activity. it would also prevent sock puppetry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Obviously we don't have age restrictions but i think most spammers would be hard pressed to find a unique person to pose for a pic for each and every spam account they register. maybe admin could appoint one or two additional mods who's sole purpose would be to verify accounts and not any mod activity. it would also prevent sock puppetry.

    I think that your suggestion of using cell phone numbers (post #10) is easier to implement and it requires less effort in contrast with appointing additional Staff members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    Obviously we don't have age restrictions but i think most spammers would be hard pressed to find a unique person to pose for a pic for each and every spam account they register. maybe admin could appoint one or two additional mods who's sole purpose would be to verify accounts and not any mod activity. it would also prevent sock puppetry.

    I think that your suggestion of using cell phone numbers (post #10) is easier to implement and it requires less effort in contrast with appointing additional Staff members.
    I agree but its personal information that many are just not willing to share. I can't blame them. i get weird text spam sometimes from foreign countries. but I think it is caused by the auto-dialer that telemarketers use, which is essentially verbal spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted.
    What if you don't have a cell phone mobile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted.
    What if you don't have a cell phone mobile?
    you can get a google number. text messages are forwarded to your email. of course that lets google deeper into your life... but it gives you a free contact number. And it receives texts. That is, of course, assuming it is available in the UK and other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted.
    What if you don't have a cell phone mobile?
    you can get a google number. text messages are forwarded to your email. of course that lets google deeper into your life... but it gives you a free contact number. And it receives texts. That is, of course, assuming it is available in the UK and other places.

    Is it Google Voice you are referring to: What Is Google Voice - Free Visual Voice Mail and One Number for All Your Phones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    Is there a way you can require a cell phone number to be submitted.
    What if you don't have a cell phone mobile?
    you can get a google number. text messages are forwarded to your email. of course that lets google deeper into your life... but it gives you a free contact number. And it receives texts. That is, of course, assuming it is available in the UK and other places.

    Is it Google Voice you are referring to: What Is Google Voice - Free Visual Voice Mail and One Number for All Your Phones
    yes that's the one... sorry for not providing a link
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