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    It did not. 2nd. try.....


    This may or may not post. If I click "quote", write a post, click submit, it claims I am not logged in, even though the header at top of page says I am. Usually, if I do only "Quick Reply", this does not happen. Occasionally, going from any page to another results in "you must log in".<br><br>I have successfully gotten around this by opening the forum on two different pages, then copy/paste from the failed entry to the other. WTH should I do, other than give up? jocular


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    Sometimes when writing a post, one will time out though the page you are on will still show 'logged in' as you have noted.

    It is a good precaution to always select and copy your reply prior to previewing or posting to prevent losing a post. Then, if you do log out, you can simply log back in, paste and post your saved material.

    This has been my method of dealing with the mild eccentricities of several forums.


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    Thanks for the info! Now we shall see if this "takes" The header above shows logged in. It has been ongoing, not a time out thing, even very short writings have failed, as have page to page changes. joc
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    There may have been something transpiring with this site or it's ISP because earlier today, I was having difficulty loading this site but not the chess forum or several others I am on.
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    I have been getting the leave page thing. If I say stay on page it doesn't post. If I say leave page it posts twice. I have my sign info saved in my browser and have it set to always keep me signed in. I don't get the warning that i have been logged out but I will get constant stalls from time to time leaving me wondering if a post went through and I don't have time to sit and wait for the page to load to find out. about half the time i find that my post did not go through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    There may have been something transpiring with this site or it's ISP because earlier today, I was having difficulty loading this site but not the chess forum or several others I am on.
    I had a similar issue earlier today as well, but it seems fine now. I do however notice that Members online list is either working fine, and everyone else has been kickoff, or it isn't working the way its suppose to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    It did not. 2nd. try.....


    This may or may not post. If I click "quote", write a post, click submit, it claims I am not logged in, even though the header at top of page says I am. Usually, if I do only "Quick Reply", this does not happen. Occasionally, going from any page to another results in "you must log in".<br><br>I have successfully gotten around this by opening the forum on two different pages, then copy/paste from the failed entry to the other. WTH should I do, other than give up? jocular
    Same thing happened to me, I think that you have to confirm your account
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakesyl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    It did not. 2nd. try.....


    This may or may not post. If I click "quote", write a post, click submit, it claims I am not logged in, even though the header at top of page says I am. Usually, if I do only "Quick Reply", this does not happen. Occasionally, going from any page to another results in "you must log in".<br><br>I have successfully gotten around this by opening the forum on two different pages, then copy/paste from the failed entry to the other. WTH should I do, other than give up? jocular
    Same thing happened to me, I think that you have to confirm your account
    I see. Being not very computer literate, could you explain please? Confirm in what way, or to whom? Thanks! jocular
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    Most helpful is sharing if you see a pattern of some sort.

    I've got quite similar problems as do at least a few other members as indicated by the duplicate post I have to delete from myself and others.
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    Lately, I have also experienced whilst using The Science Forum.
    When I am checking the sub-forums or modifying a post, I sometimes end up being logged out (not intentionally).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Most helpful is sharing if you see a pattern of some sort.
    I've never experienced double posts on this forum.
    Perhaps that is because I never log out?
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    I just received the following error message while accessing a topic.

    Internal Server Error

    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

    Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@thescienceforum.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

    More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

    Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
    Apache/2.2.22 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.0-fips DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.thescienceforum.com Port 80
    I've also been getting very slow response from time to time without getting the error message.
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    I've been having troubles accessing the site today and had to save one post and come back half an hour later to get it through. Things are much slower on this site today than on other forums that I have been using.
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    I am seeing the signs of an ad bot attack. I look at the number of members "on line" when ever I visit, and I see low numbers when the names are legitimate member names, and high numbers in the hundreds, when most of the names appear to be computer generated. From what little I know about it, it is a huge effort to get in front of such an attack. Maybe the owner/admin efforts to respond to eliminate the computer generated members causes some difficulty in access?
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    Excellent point, bogie. I had noticed a few days back that we were getting swarmed by unpronounceable 'new members'. That may very well be the case. My sympathies are with Admin. in trying to mitigate these types of actions. Why can't people do something useful or at least not detrimental with their time and talents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Excellent point, bogie. I had noticed a few days back that we were getting swarmed by unpronounceable 'new members'. That may very well be the case. My sympathies are with Admin. in trying to mitigate these types of actions. Why can't people do something useful or at least not detrimental with their time and talents?
    A good question! Instead of "can't", let's insert "don't", and consider simply they don't because they feel what they do is useful. As Bill Long addressed the situation: "This place is filled with helpless assholes, and they provide me with a good living" (repairing their cars).

    Incongruous. Sorry. Long night, and I have thus far failed to find my final post before retiring......joc
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    This problem seems to be slowing or stopping the email notifications. Many threads I've been monitoring have had new posts for which I haven't received any notification.
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    haven't had a problem....had the do you want to leave pop up....and usually find it is because I have messed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    This problem seems to be slowing or stopping the email notifications. Many threads I've been monitoring have had new posts for which I haven't received any notification.
    From the little experience I have had, I have seen the emails delayed for up to a day elsewhere when the ad bots use software that gets through the defenses. The email part may be as simple as the forum admin doesn't want email going back to the bots, so they have to have a fix that intervenes with the bot's posts, and so that followers of the attacked thread don't get a message to go look at the ad :shrug:. Just guessing.
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    You're averaging 2 posts per month. I almost feel privileged to have seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    You're averaging 2 posts per month. I almost feel privileged to have seen one.
    Funny. I go in spurts, besides, its a new month so I still have one to give.

    Oops, there's two, darn.
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    Quota met. Get lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Quota met. Get lost.
    Did you mean to put a little smiley face after that :Shrug:?
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    No, but there was implied sarcasm. You don't post enough to know that I should never be taken seriously or with alcohol.
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    Well this morning I didn't have any email notifications from this forum, but when I checked several threads I've been posting in there's been about 15 new posts. This was the exact same problem that caused me to change my ID from arKane to Bad Robot. The Admin claimed my IP was blocking the messages. I was never able to verify that. But as soon as I changed my ID I started getting email notifications again until now.
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    I'm thinking that our 'visitors' are causing problems for Admin. Check out all the 'word salad' names such as that of our newest member. Possibly some of them are legit but a swarm of them seems to have descended in the last week or so, right about the time that I noticed access issues and delays. No doubt, Admin is doing what they can. Meanwhile, I manually check where the action is because our monopoly ISP is busy doing work on their system as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    I had noticed a few days back that we were getting swarmed by unpronounceable 'new members'. That may very well be the case. My sympathies are with Admin. in trying to mitigate these types of actions. Why can't people do something useful or at least not detrimental with their time and talents?
    Are these the "individuals" called spambots?
    I assume the names are computer generated. What do the people who create them hope to gain?
    I am also surprised that it appears to be so difficult to control, and stop, these activities on Internet forums.
    Apart from anything else it is annoying to be faced with a "wall of text" when looking at the section containing the names of those members Logged In.
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    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    I had no idea! Still, knowing malicious mischief is everywhere, perhaps these folks have simply run out of things to get kicks from. jocular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    Thank you for taking time from your spam bot siege to keep us whiny posters informed, Admin.

    All the best in your endeavors to keep them in check.

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    Whatever the Admin did, it must have worked because I just received all the notifications I've been missing all day. I feel much relief now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    Hi admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    One would think people could make better use of their time than this then attempting to bot or spam a room.

    Pretty pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    I was aware they were difficult to stop, but just surprised that the very clever computer experts, around, have, so far, been unable to discover an even more effective method of control.
    I still do not understand the motivations of those who create the spam bots. Are they simply trying to annoy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halliday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    As per our internal logs there are on average 5 registration attempts by spam bots per minute. Thousands per day. While only a fraction of them manage to pass through the spam filters, they are still a lot.
    I was aware they were difficult to stop, but just surprised that the very clever computer experts, around, have, so far, been unable to discover an even more effective method of control.
    I still do not understand the motivations of those who create the spam bots. Are they simply trying to annoy?
    That would be my assumption.

    Took me ten minutes to get to my mail and reply.

    Why people like to mess with others in this way is beyond me.
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    Well I was unable to connect to the forum for about 4 hours this morning. So I will assume Admin was still working on the recent forum troubles.
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    I don't know where the servers are located now but if they are still in texas we have been under heat advisory here for a few days. we have even had power cutting out in parts of the house due to outlets getting too hot. Maybe where the servers are they are having brown outs.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    I don't know where the servers are located now but if they are still in texas we have been under heat advisory here for a few days. we have even had power cutting out in parts of the house due to outlets getting too hot. Maybe where the servers are they are having brown outs.
    Not knowing the server setup it's possible. However, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have some kind of power backup that would kick in and allow them to save all the current data being input at the time the power was cut. If they can afford it, maybe the power backup could allow them to stay up for several hours or until power is restored.
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    Not been able to connect to the forum for the whole of Friday.
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    Thanks, Admin. I 'like' that you keep the membership informed.
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