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    Is there a way to ignore certain members?


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    I've always been curious about this type of mentality. How can any poster be so vile or foolish that you can't simply move your eyes past his post without reading it rather than requiring his words to be excised from your machine as though they were some type of virulent plague that threatens to wipe out one's sensibilities or moralities.

    Is it really so difficult to just not read certain posts?


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    conversely, is it so hard not to act like a jackass?

    j's post has a good point. sometimes, some people must be ignored.
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    A veiled insult, Herr Zero?
    J never mentions why he wants to ignore certain posters.
    Your assumptions speak volumes.

    Anyway.
    Has my second attempt to communicate with you failed then?
    Or perhaps you just haven't made it there yet?

    I'll give you a bit more time. We'll see.

    some people must be ignored.
    Yes. The ultimate truth of the ignorant.

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    I didn't use ignore much at Sci, but I did use it. Proud Muslim, Extrasense, Pronatalist. When they can only pound one point home like a broken record, they just ruin a thread that you might otherwise enjoy participating in. And as I mentioned elsewhere, I would have put Xev on ignore if I could have. Not worth the raised blood pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Also Known As
    When they can only pound one point home like a broken record ...
    Yeah, the irrelevant posts annoy me a bit. And those who break into any thread with nothing to add. Message boards aren't chatrooms.

    I log on after work, late at night, when I want to unwind. I want reasoned discussion, not hysterical diatribes.
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    I'm doing some research on the Ignore option. There are some mods for phpBB availible. I have to setup a beta site first and add a bunch of stuff, once that's done and tested I can add it to this site.

    I'll see what else I can add that if of use at the same time.
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    --how does one go about vindication from a perpetual banishment brought about by the Ignore Option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    --how does one go about vindication from a perpetual banishment brought about by the Ignore Option?
    Well, we don't have the option Yet. The person being ignored will not know they are being ignored. It will I believe replace thier posts with a message that indicates you have opted to ignore the user. I believe there will be an option to also choose to view it regardless.

    All the info I have for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (In)Sanity
    The person being ignored will not know they are being ignored.
    There's such a thing as forum gossip. I recall members at Sciforums boasting about their Ignore lists in broad daylight. What a way to find out, huhn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    Quote Originally Posted by (In)Sanity
    The person being ignored will not know they are being ignored.
    There's such a thing as forum gossip. I recall members at Sciforums boasting about their Ignore lists in broad daylight. What a way to find out, huhn?
    True, perhaps we need a monthly newsletter with all the latest gosip....such and such is ignoring ad.hoc for insulting his mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    --how does one go about vindication from a perpetual banishment brought about by the Ignore Option?
    Why do some dislike this option so much? Why shouldn't you have the ability to just ignore me? This is not a holiday dinner table where you have to be polite to your step-brother's third wife's step-daughter by her fourth marriage, no matter what.

    If you think I have nothing of interest to contribute to a discussion, why should my posts clutter up your screen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j
    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    --how does one go about vindication from a perpetual banishment brought about by the Ignore Option?
    Why do some dislike this option so much? Why shouldn't you have the ability to just ignore me? This is not a holiday dinner table where you have to be polite to your step-brother's third wife's step-daughter by her fourth marriage, no matter what.

    If you think I have nothing of interest to contribute to a discussion, why should my posts clutter up your screen?
    Personally, I can't ignore a person because of their very existence. I may not see them or hear them, but I will sense them: they are there, brushing aside my opinions of their characters. Yet, to deliberately segregate or denounce another by some gimmickry arrangement, like cutting their faces out of photographs, to me, defeats the whole idea of true absence; their pseudo-absence would harass me like spectres do. So I'll simply disregard another's presence to blend into the background, but always open to a change of mind, mood, attitude; thus giving them the chance to prove themselves -- if they can.
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    So that's your reason for wanting something to override someone's ignore?

    That's like forcing someone to hear what you say by following them around and yelling in their ear.

    That's beyond rude. That's lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    That's beyond rude. That's lame.
    Ouch.
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    Personally, you can ignore anybody you want. But I find it ridiculous that you need the help of a machine to do so.

    Ad hoc's point is valid. Somewhat. It's true that even the most foolish of fools sometimes says something valid on topic, and that you might just snap judge somebody as foolish and put them on ignore when in fact they have much worthwhile to say. But who cares? Your loss really, if you miss anything interesting.

    I just think it's weak. That's all. It clutters up the page and raises blood pressure? Ha! How difficult is it just to scroll down past it. Maybe even giving it a quick once over, just in case, and going on with your life. Why is that so difficult?

    I've never put anyone on ignore in my life. But I have ignored several. But, it's always good to see their foolishness to keep the reasons for your contempt fresh and alive. Humans are creatures of forgetfulness. Give them time away and they'll start thining, "Well, maybe he wasn't that bad..."

    Anyway. Sometimes its fun to ridicule the moronic. Every now and again they take heed and learn their lesson. And then you can call yourself a great hero or something. Needy mook, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    --how does one go about vindication from a perpetual banishment brought about by the Ignore Option?
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    Yet, to deliberately segregate or denounce another ...
    I think these concerns would be appropriate to Banning rather than Ignoring; an individual has every right to decide with whom to associate, but does a governing body have the right to decide with whom to allow us to associate?

    No-one can tell if a poster is being Ignored or ignored; it has no effect on anyone but the person who has chosen to Ignore rather than ignore.

    [Does this board ban?]

    always open to a change of mind, mood, attitude; thus giving them the chance to prove themselves -- if they can.
    That is admirable; you should never Ignore, because you have the time and optimism.

    But people are different; they have different skills and different priorities, and, therefore, will make use of different options.

    Different is not wrong; it's different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invert_nexus
    Personally, you can ignore anybody you want. But I find it ridiculous that you need the help of a machine to do so.

    Ad hoc's point is valid. Somewhat. It's true that even the most foolish of fools sometimes says something valid on topic, and that you might just snap judge somebody as foolish and put them on ignore when in fact they have much worthwhile to say. But who cares? Your loss really, if you miss anything interesting.

    I just think it's weak. That's all. It clutters up the page and raises blood pressure? Ha! How difficult is it just to scroll down past it. Maybe even giving it a quick once over, just in case, and going on with your life. Why is that so difficult?

    I've never put anyone on ignore in my life. But I have ignored several. But, it's always good to see their foolishness to keep the reasons for your contempt fresh and alive. Humans are creatures of forgetfulness. Give them time away and they'll start thining, "Well, maybe he wasn't that bad..."

    Anyway. Sometimes its fun to ridicule the moronic. Every now and again they take heed and learn their lesson. And then you can call yourself a great hero or something. Needy mook, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j
    an individual has every right to decide with whom to associate,
    Sure.

    but does a governing body have the right to decide with whom to allow us to associate?
    And who's being the governing body? If discussion, and an exchange of esprit is what's happening here, then it is doing so in likeness to what is a real, live social occasion. Granted, some are obnoxious, or irrelevant, or boring, or tedious -- but aren't we all at one time or another? So imagine this -- in likeness to what is a real, live social occasion -- imagine a world where people are walking around void of substance, disembodied and depleted, except for a silly floating tag that tactlessly announces their presence missing because "this person has been put on your ignore list." So in effect, a person's participation in a thread is not being ignored, is it? You would still know of their passage. However, you would gloat. And to what means would you owe your vengeance against that person? The governing body who so graciously implemented a system that facilitates, with the click of a button, the theft of another's public right to be. Rather shabby and juvenile, wouldn't you think? Click. You're Out. Click.

    [Does this board ban?]
    Now with banning a person at least could never interact, hence their presence would truly be elsewhere, and one would never know whether or not they might have participated in a discussion. But banning wouldn't impart much of a triumph, would it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    a silly floating tag that tactlessly announces their presence missing ... However, you would gloat.
    Thank you so much; now I get it.
    But you're wrong; I would not gloat; why should I gloat? over what? that I have avoided one of many minor irritants in my life? That would inspire mild relief, not the aggressive satisfaction of gloating.

    I would risk missing an interesting post; why should I gloat over that?


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    an individual has every right to decide with whom to associate,
    Sure.

    but does a governing body have the right to decide with whom to allow us to associate?
    And who's being the governing body?..
    The Moderators. Were you following the Teenage Behavior Thread; I was. Then, in mid-conversation, it was split. I lost my conversation. No warning. That bothers me a lot more than the idea that you could avoid my posts without needing to hit the page down button.

    But banning wouldn't impart much of a triumph, would it?
    [Obviously, it could for a Moderator.]
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    The Moderators. Were you following the Teenage Behavior Thread; I was. Then, in mid-conversation, it was split. I lost my conversation. No warning. That bothers me a lot more than the idea that you could avoid my posts without needing to hit the page down button.
    That thread can now be found in the Rave section, a couple of posts are missing but not lost. We don't have a merge option yet so we can't put them back.

    In any case this will be handled a bit better in the future. The forum is going through some growing pains right now with a clash of culture. I have confidence we can make it a happy place for everyone.

    Can I promise a thread won't be split apart in the future, no. I also can't promise warnings won't be issued to those that attack others with excessive profanity.

    Please see the sticky post under Site feedback and comment on what type of forum you would like to see (and also vote).
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    I just found the replacement threads, thank you.

    And I'm really happy you instituted the Rave; people will vent.

    I wonder if people will start threads there, or if they will just get moved there when things get out of hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j
    I just found the replacement threads, thank you.

    And I'm really happy you instituted the Rave; people will vent.

    I wonder if people will start threads there, or if they will just get moved there when things get out of hand?
    I'm sure a bit of both. I know you were a member before the influx of all our refugees and you may have noticed the quick pace the site has changed at, we are just still trying to pick up some loose ends.

    I'll be working on all the changes people have requested I hope soon. My time is so spread out lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invert_nexus
    Personally, you can ignore anybody you want. But I find it ridiculous that you need the help of a machine to do so.
    Not "need". I don't need a computer with a 'net connection to get stimulating conversation. But it does make it easier!

    Ad hoc's point is valid. Somewhat. It's true that even the most foolish of fools sometimes says something valid on topic, and that you might just snap judge somebody as foolish and put them on ignore when in fact they have much worthwhile to say. But who cares? Your loss really, if you miss anything interesting.
    I'm sure I miss lots of interesting stuff.. not by ignoring people, but by not reading every post on every thread on every subforum on every forum site on the web...
    I don't know why you equate using the ingore feature with snap judgements. For me, at least, it takes a sustained barrage of noise before earning a place on the ignore list. And even then, it's temporary (because people change).

    I just think it's weak. That's all. It clutters up the page and raises blood pressure? Ha! How difficult is it just to scroll down past it. Maybe even giving it a quick once over, just in case, and going on with your life. Why is that so difficult?
    For the same reason that I don't give everything on the 'net a quick once over, just in case. Life's not long enough to waste it on noise. Anything that improves the S2N ratio is a good thing, yes?

    But, it's always good to see their foolishness to keep the reasons for your contempt fresh and alive.
    Ouch! That's bitter. Is your contempt for some so important to you that you must nurture it?

    Humans are creatures of forgetfulness. Give them time away and they'll start thining, "Well, maybe he wasn't that bad..."
    An addition to an ignore list (mine at least) is a temporary thing... because some people do change.

    Anyway. Sometimes its fun to ridicule the moronic. Every now and again they take heed and learn their lesson. And then you can call yourself a great hero or something. Needy mook, maybe.
    Of course! That option usually comes before the Ignore button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    For the same reason that I don't give everything on the 'net a quick once over, just in case. Life's not long enough to waste it on noise. Anything that improves the S2N ratio is a good thing, yes?
    What is the "S2N ratio"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by water
    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    For the same reason that I don't give everything on the 'net a quick once over, just in case. Life's not long enough to waste it on noise. Anything that improves the S2N ratio is a good thing, yes?
    What is the "S2N ratio"?
    I'm pretty sure it was suppose to be SN ratio or Signal to Noise. I've never heard anyone call it S2N.
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    Signal to Noise. Signal 2 Noise. S2N.

    Sorry; non-standard terminology. I used to participate in a science forum called S2N.
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    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by water
    Thank you.

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    gently moving, squirming gently.. my little sparrow

    gently as the summer breeze you tame the collusion of pain

    You, the coda of my harmonic existence
    you, fulfill me.
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    the pain, THE FUCKING PAIN!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect
    Quote Originally Posted by water
    Thank you.

    Your silky hair fondles the scent of intimacy
    gently moving, squirming gently.. my little sparrow

    gently as the summer breeze you tame the collusion of pain

    You, the coda of my harmonic existence
    you, fulfill me.
    Me, the otiose

    the pain, THE FUCKING PAIN!



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    Your silky hair fondles the scent of intimacy
    gently moving, squirming gently.. my little sparrow

    gently as the summer breeze you tame the collusion of pain

    You, the coda of my harmonic existence
    you, fulfill me.
    Me, the otiose

    the pain, THE FUCKING PAIN!



    Ahahahahahaharhrhrhhahaaagargle.
    Perfect, how does this relate to the post?

    Well I can see it if your trying to be one of the people we should ignore
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    Quote Originally Posted by (In)Sanity
    Perfect, how does this relate to the post?

    Well I can see it if your trying to be one of the people we should ignore

    Go on, motherfucker, ignore me. I would be merely happy about it.


    And who are the "WE" that you're talking about? Locke and Homo?
    what?
    Such a devastating loss.


    And never again insinuate that water is off-topic or I will kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect
    And who are the "WE" that you're talking about? Locke and Homo?
    No, fool, the person who started the thread, and, yeah, your randomly agressive gibberish was exactly what I wanted to ignore.
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    Go on, motherfucker, ignore me. I would be merely happy about it.
    Have been and will continue do to so except when I want to smash your nasty little distinctly non-poetic self-indulgences back at you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect
    ... or I will kill you.
    You want to kill someone, go start your own thread in the Trashcan.

    You want to discuss the topic I raised?

    You can't; you can't discuss anything; all you can do is interrupt others with delusions of originality; your post structure and random use of words indicates nothing but an inability to form, nevermind phrase a coherent thought...

    Just go away.
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    (In)Sanity,

    Perfect, how does this relate to the post?
    Well I can see it if your trying to be one of the people we should ignore
    and

    j,

    Have been and will continue do to so except when I want to smash your nasty little distinctly non-poetic self-indulgences back at you.
    Active ignorance means active care for what you detest means masochism.
    Niiice.



    You want to discuss the topic I raised?

    You can't; you can't discuss anything; all you can do is interrupt others with delusions of originality; your post structure and random use of words indicates nothing but an inability to form, nevermind phrase a coherent thought...
    What else is there to you, except your ability to form and phrase coherent thought? Those other things, are they something you are proud of, are they such you can hold on to once that ability to form and phrase coherent thought fails you?
    You really think that eventually, it is "the ability to form and phrase coherent thought" that all comes down to, don't you?



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    Perfect is a perfect example of how not to act while here and is now no longer welcome on the forum.

    If anyone questions this decision feel free to debate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by water
    You really think that eventually, it is "the ability to form and phrase coherent thought" that all comes down to, don't you?
    On a message board? Well, the ability type comes in handy, too, but, basically, yes.

    If a rose were to live in your presence, she would wither.
    I'll put my garden up against yours any day.
    You and me, rosa a rosa, any time.
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