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    I would like to suggest that a WIKI section be created where each of the topic areas included in the Natural Sciences section at the lest be represented. That way folks that are interested in studying topics such as Newton Laws or looking for a specific mathematical formal can turn to. Thoughts ?


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    Why waste space here, when a simple google search turns up the wiki pages?


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    You have a valid albeit shortsighted response and I am sorry that you feel that way especially since you are a site Moderator. If the WIKI were posted here people would come here for the information rather than go elsewhere. When I was a moderator I did all I could to capture, redirect and generate web site traffic and generate revenue. I came to this forum because it has all the major sciences represented as opposed to me having to go to a Biology specific forum for my biological needs and a chemistry forum for chemistry inquiries. I was hoping this would be my one stop shop for research and discussion and a WIKI would help fill that need for me and for others as well. It was just a thought since I updated a Wikipedia entry on Schrodinger this morning.
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    All I did was ask a question, which you did. I did not ascribe any motives to you, I don't know why you assumed to know what I was thinking.
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    That was not a question it was a statement. A question is something that you pose as in an interrogative expression used to test knowledge, which was not what you did. Let me make this simple for you: a question does not end with a period it ends with a question mark. OK ?

    The part of your response “I did not ascribe any motives to you” does not make any sense. Ascribe means to assign or attribute and my motive or purpose in posing the question was obvious by the topic object of my post i.e. to have a WIKI created. As a matter of fact that whole sentence is meaningless. What exactly do you mean to say? .... that is a Question see the question mark ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokey View Post
    That was not a question it was a statement. A question is something that you pose as in an interrogative expression used to test knowledge, which was not what you did. Let me make this simple for you: a question does not end with a period it ends with a question mark. OK ?
    Please examine post #2, my reply to your OP. See the "?" ?

    The part of your response “I did not ascribe any motives to you” does not make any sense. Ascribe means to assign or attribute and my motive or purpose in posing the question was obvious by the topic object of my post i.e. to have a WIKI created. As a matter of fact that whole sentence is meaningless. What exactly do you mean to say? .... that is a Question see the question mark ??
    That was referring to your second post where you started with:

    "You have a valid albeit shortsighted response and I am sorry that you feel that way especially since you are a site Moderator."

    So you said my response was shortsighted. It was just a freakin' question!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokey View Post
    That was not a question it was a statement. A question is something that you pose as in an interrogative expression used to test knowledge, which was not what you did. Let me make this simple for you: a question does not end with a period it ends with a question mark. OK ?

    The part of your response “I did not ascribe any motives to you” does not make any sense. Ascribe means to assign or attribute and my motive or purpose in posing the question was obvious by the topic object of my post i.e. to have a WIKI created. As a matter of fact that whole sentence is meaningless. What exactly do you mean to say? .... that is a Question see the question mark ??
    no need to come across all aggressive
    whilst a wiki may be a worthwhile idea, it would require administering, hence is something that our admin team would have to judge whether it is something they want to take on or not

    in addition, a wiki is different ball game from a forum, and someone who agreed to be a moderator for a forum might not want to fulfill that role for a wiki
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    I don't understand the proposal. We are obviously not going to create an encyclopedia here, at least not something that would compare to Wikipedia.
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    I don't understand the proposal either. Pokey can you provide us an example of what you had in mind?
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    Thank you all for the inquiry, however I’m over it now and I will go elsewhere for my advanced needs.
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    Why don't you just explain it to us?
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    A WIKI is where users can add, modify, or delete content based on a topic. For example a document on Sir Isaac Newton’s three laws of motion.

    If you want to see an example of a science WIKI take a look at this one here: http://biology.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

    On the other hand if you would feel more comfortable calling it a “Library” like we have on the PhysicsForums that would work as well for all practical purposes: http://www.physicsforums.com/library.php

    At any rate I envisioned that when users come to this forum and using the example above want to see what Newton’s laws are they can click the forum topic WIKI or Library, Documents etc and get the list. In undergraduate and graduate studies this is a real need in the sciences. It is also helpful to students preparing for a test or finals in one of the sciences. I personally have used Wiki entries to get information and facts for magazine articles, blog posts and for providing answers to forum questions.


    WIKI (Or whatever it will be called)
    • Biology
    Polymers
    Photosynthesis
    • Mathematics
    Derivative Rules for Calculus
    Radius Perpendicular Tangent
    • Physics
    Loop Quantum Gravity
    The Strong Nuclear Force

    Does this help or hinder? I am only trying to help not harm this forum.
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    I think if you are suggesting being able to edit your own posts then you already can, though it's probarbly a good idea to pop a reason to avoid confusion if your doing alot of editing. As for editing other peoples posts, well I think some people might not like that. I think it's far better to make a sperate post quoting what they've put and offering a correction. This will also save confusion.

    I think if anyone could edit anyone else's post it could be very confusing indeed, as people could log on put their post and discover it's totally different than what they actually put. Also it doesn't allow the other members to see where members are a bit weak on some subjects and help them out with the correct knowledge that will help them, if peoples mistakes are quickly hidden and the correct answers always appearing.

    But I would say that the other main reason is this is a discussion site designed to allow discussion to take place, this means that much of the content will be opinion and conjecture not just facts. This is probarbly the main difference from Wiki. So if it was purely about facts and being accurate then yes it would be a valid and very good idea, but since it's about discussion and opinion it's not really going to be popular.
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    I hate to come across as negative. Perhaps I just haven't caught on to the idea. The FAQ at physics forum says:
    Before the PF Library they then had to either post a question within the topic thus slowing down discussion or they had to go outside PF to research. And who knows what kind of information they'd find or if it were even reliable. Now these members and visitors don't need to go outside PF and can research and look up these concepts quickly on site.
    Now as far as I can tell "going outside" involves nothing more than opening a new tab in your browser, then typing a few key words into the google search box. This will usually give you access to a large number of articles on the topic at websites such as various universities, and of course Wikipedia. Wheras the PF library may or may not have something written on the topic you wish to research. I wouldn't necessarily think articles written at PF or here would be more reliable than the other sources.
    The Library also allows members to further define concepts and terms.
    Translation (I think): It is a place for members to have fun writing about some topic they are interested in.Is this the way you see it?
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    wikipedia only works because there's enough people who care about its quality to exclude dross whenever it crops up
    within the confines of this forum i'm not ready for such a battle against the twin forces of evil and stupidity
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    Ok, I get it.


    Sorry I don't think we have the talent and time to come up any more useful information than what's already available in the public domain (I already have written and monotor a couple articles on wike-encyclopedia).
    If, for example, I was write a TSF wiki article about a weather phenomena it would probably not amount to much more then one sentence and a link to a durable long term source to learn more already hung on a reliable atmospheric or educational site...or perhaps a link to a landmark peer-review paper that describes it. I think that's about as good as we could get and it would still take a mountain of work that we probably couldn't handle.

    Full articles, much like my wiki articles, would likely be better anyhow because of several generations of editing and review by others.

    Perhaps I'm not fully understanding your idea, but as I do, I don't think it's viable.
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    If you want to see where this suggestion might lead see this attempt on a site of which I am a member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarist View Post
    If you want to see where this suggestion might lead see this attempt on a site of which I am a member
    I clicked on "random page" a few times and found mostly a lot of tomfoolery. Is there anything worthwhile there?
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    ya....lost of useful stuff there:

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    An Australian fetus, Mate.

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    Computer Science

    Computer Science is Science involving rockets. Imagine rocket science only easier and for pussies.
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    Logic

    Logic is commonly confused with total bollocks[1]. Logic is the ultimate logical fallacy since the application of logic assumes that logic exists in a meaningful context.

    • logic is pretty flowers that smell really bad.
    • logic would only be logical if the universe is logical.

    Logic is a Logical Fallacy.
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    Denmark

    Denmark is a flat country in Europe.



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    The Danes

    Like the inhabitants of many other small European nations, Danes are principally despised for being from a small European nation, and for their penchant for marrying animals.

    Danelanders are the descendants of the axe-carrying, blood-drinking, pointy-hat-wearing Vikings and who at one time conquered Sweden, Iceland, Greenland (pfft), East Korea and part of Northern England. This inevitably leads to the question: "What happened?"

    No one knows, but it is presently an argument of old debate as to whether or not the Danish Army could be handed their arses by the likes of Canada. Oh, the shame. In related news, Canada and Denmark may end up duking it out over the rightful possession of large blocks of useless ice in the Arctic, if either nation finds a boat seaworthy enough to paddle out and ask the Americans for a lift.
    "Dane" should not be confused with Dane Cook. One of these two is a rough-bearded individual who likes to shout, wave his arms menacingly and make off with local women. The other is from Denmark.


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    Geography

    Although Denmark is rather flat it is not entirely flat

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