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  1. #1 What is heaven and hell like? 
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    I came across an article recently which claims to KNOW what heaven and hell is like, though of course no one can know for sure if these places exist, if anything exists after death or presume to know what an afterlife is like, but it made interesting reading.

    What are your thoughts on it...details here:
    http://girltalk-ladiesonly.blogspot....hell-like.html

    Article not posted here due to length.


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    Hello TheoryofRelativity,

    Philosophically presumptuous, credulous, fantastic, nonsensical and hysterical. Whats to be expected in this sort of thing. Sad stuff. Hard to differentiate from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons mythologies in theme.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    ...claims to KNOW what heaven and hell is like, ...
    i've wondered about that too - just like i've been wondering how certain people claim to know what god's will is, or how certain catastrophes are the result of god's displeasure with whatever particular bee in the bonnet the claimant has
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Heaven and Hell are whatever you want to be. Doesn't mean you'll be going there when you die though.
    Disclaimer: I do not declare myself to be an expert on ANY subject. If I state something as fact that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible.

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    Heaven and hell are here on earth.

    I rather think the little boy locked in a cage and slowly being eaten by his family was in hell. I hope that now he is well and safe and free from that hell.

    It doesn't get much worse than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    Heaven and hell are here on earth.
    Yes indeed, and this is how we know outside of religious/scriptural claims) what is like any heaven and hell that might experienced beyond this life.


    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    I rather think the little boy locked in a cage and slowly being eaten by his family was in hell. I hope that now he is well and safe and free from that hell.

    It doesn't get much worse than that.
    It is difficult for you and me to imagine existing in such circumstances. But I am not sure our imaginations is an accurate measure. For all that I think you are probably quite correct, you might have to ask him about this. People's experience of things can be quite subjective and the external circumstances are not as important as the subjective experience. People can be in hell even when they have every physical comfort and others can be in heaven in the worst physical circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    It is difficult for you and me to imagine existing in such circumstances. But I am not sure our imaginations is an accurate measure. For all that I think you are probably quite correct, you might have to ask him about this. People's experience of things can be quite subjective and the external circumstances are not as important as the subjective experience. People can be in hell even when they have every physical comfort and others can be in heaven in the worst physical circumstances.
    I think the boys screams were indictative that he was not enjoying his torture. I am pretty sure it was not his idea of heaven. He was seven when this abuse began and it lasted a few months, prior to this we can assume he had a normal ish life.

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    Personally, heaven and hell might not 'look' like anything. Why so curious about them?
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    Mystic bullshit. Again, mystic bullshit. Harmful to progression of human thought. This is expeletive deleted nonsense, why bring it up as a matter of consumption Mrs. Falwell? Or should I say Mother? Or how about Mrs. Graham?

    How about your personal experience in the divine my good witch? You selfish excessive expletive deleted! You presume to be held to a different standard than nature?

    Please understand that this is not how it works my dear homo sapiens. Please save any tarot readings, or any other metaphysical BULLSHIT to your own neurologically impaired misunderstanding.

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    Wow, why so hostile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by serpicojr
    Wow, why so hostile?
    don't take it personal, some people are mentally unwell. They can't help it.
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    There's always the hope that they're not unwell but simply unaware of the impropriety of their behavior. Then again, history suggests that there is little return on the investment of time and effort in attempting to cool off forum hotheads.
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    every thing depends I think,

    Servent of heven or ruler of hell,

    And I personaly think that heven is a terrible place,
    If there is nothing bad then you won`t appreciate the good things
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    Bless human logic and rationality. Maybe thats your explanation for God letting all the bad things happening hm? Maybe not?
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    portcontrol7,
    please try to exercise a little more self restraint. I understand that you feel passionately about the topic and that you consider certain views expressed here, by some parties, to be inappropriate, to say the least. However, you should try to convey such passion with a greater measure of respect for those whose attitudes or views you are condeming. Ego does not ensure correctness.
    Thank youfor your future attention in this matter.
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    Perhaps the expletives were a bit much. I should have chosen less caustic language. But the sentiment remains. Being lied to sucks, and extrapolating on the undefinable is insane. Of course there are the deceivers and the deceived, but they are not mutually exclusive.

    It's a symbiotic relationship between the "shepherd and the sheep", in my opinion a downward spiral that is harmful to much more than thought, and thats partly why I'm so hostile. It's art in the abstract in its denigration of reality and lack of humanity. It's the pattern of thought that creates war in all its putrid configurations, under it's banner of peace. It's the repulsive concept of heaven and hell. It's vicious and cruel, beyond all reasoning.

    It's faith!
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    Quote Originally Posted by portcontrol7
    Perhaps the expletives were a bit much. I should have chosen less caustic language. But the sentiment remains. Being lied to sucks, and extrapolating on the undefinable is insane. Of course there are the deceivers and the deceived, but they are not mutually exclusive.

    It's a symbiotic relationship between the "shepherd and the sheep", in my opinion a downward spiral that is harmful to much more than thought, and thats partly why I'm so hostile. It's art in the abstract in its denigration of reality and lack of humanity. It's the pattern of thought that creates war in all its putrid configurations, under it's banner of peace. It's the repulsive concept of heaven and hell. It's vicious and cruel, beyond all reasoning.

    It's faith!
    This is the insanity of human beings that they themselves do what they condemn in others. The condemnation of others whom they disagree with is indeed the source of much evil in the world, but the consider the irony that you demonstate how you yourself are an example of this evil which you condemn. This is the problem with the kind of black and white thinking of all the different kinds of fundamentalists in the world. For them there is only truth and lie, and thus they say that everyone who thinks differently from them is a liar. But the real truth is that we make choices about how to live our lives while submerged in uncertainty and there is only the sucess of ones own life to say whether these choices are good or bad.

    But one of the few things we can say for certain is that when one person or group of people take it upon themselves to make these choices for other persons or groups of people, usually through the use of some sort of coersion, the result is always bad. We must understand that making ones own choices is part of life and living and without them there is only death and dying. So I think one choice we have to make is pretty clear and it is between life and death: to respect the choices of others or to be the ignoramous fundamentalist who cannot help themselves in condemning everything that does not fit into their little picture of the world.
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