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    The greatest science, the science that has some sense in it, is the science of self realization. All other sciences are worthless, waste of time, a game for people, who don't know what is the purpose of their life. The so called scientists of "modern times" have succeded only in one thing - the Earth is before a catastrophy if the real Sacred Science is not made known to every body on this planet. The Real Science is to return to innocence, to remember who we really are, and to forget everything the old science has thought us.

    The greatest "modern" scientist - Einstein at the end of his life was totaly devoted to this science.

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    Trying to attract people to your way of thinking and philosophy is not best achieved by telling them their present beliefs are worthless, a waste of time, a game for people.


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    Science flows from the philosophical concept that humans are not isolated beings, a thought confirmed by empirical evidence (babies without social contact will die). Because we stand open to our environment, part of who and what we are lies hidden in that environment. Thus, to understand ourselves, we must understand our environment. From this perspective lies the concept to discover as much as we can about 'everything'.

    Disagree? You are welcome. Sacred science? The religious man I am, I consider that blashphemy, laddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Trying to attract people to your way of thinking and philosophy is not best achieved by telling them their present beliefs are worthless, a waste of time, a game for people.
    "I don't seek glory from men"
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    [quote="HomoUniversalis"]Science flows from the philosophical concept that humans are not isolated beings, a thought confirmed by empirical evidence (babies without social contact will die).
    Social contact is contact with other beings - not necessary "humans". There are many cases of children, left alone in the "wild" nature, who have lived very happily.

    Because we stand open to our environment, part of who and what we are lies hidden in that environment. Thus, to understand ourselves, we must understand our environment. From this perspective lies the concept to discover as much as we can about 'everything'.

    "Everything" - exactly - that everything can't be discovered with your polluted mind. Your mind, which is a sense, has to be on a high level of consciousness, it has to be pure from the material desires, the attachments you have. How can you discover anything if you don't know the meaning of your life? And what is the point even if you discover anything. The purpose of life is happiness. When you learn, or rather remember how to be happy, then you go play with scientific experiments for the good of the other beings - so that they also are happy.


    Disagree? You are welcome. Sacred science? The religious man I am, I consider that blashphemy, laddy.

    Religious maybe you are, but are you good? Do you love everybody, because you realize they are just like you? Do you feel pain, when you see someone in pain and try to help them immediately? I doubt it. I think you(or your government) has made of you a lazy uncle, who works only for himself, and for what he thinks is his property. It has taken the pure being you were and made from you a hard worker for the money, which the tv tells you non-stop you need for survival. No you need 1st clean air, clean water, clear sky without smog, clear food and all this is given to you for free from Mother Earth, who is a servent of Father Love, who born you to be happy non-stop, to play the game of Love, to be "one with The Father".
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    Religious maybe you are, but are you good? Do you love everybody, because you realize they are just like you?Do you feel pain, when you see someone in pain and try to help them immediately? I doubt it.
    From whence do you draw this conclusion? Perhaps my name is truthful, and I am a Universal Man, an enlightened being.


    I think you(or your government) has made of you a lazy uncle, who works only for himself, and for what he thinks is his property.
    Your thoughts are irrelevant. For someone coming to a science site professing sacred science, you presume a lot.

    It has taken the pure being you were and made from you a hard worker for the money, which the tv tells you non-stop you need for survival.
    I haven't watched tv once in the last three weeks, and those times I do watch tv, its incidental. I do not own a mobile phone, and am not obsessed with material possesions. If you do not suffer a consumeristic existence, why are you using a computer? After all, a computer is not a pure natural object. Judge me not, for you do not know me.

    No you need 1st clean air, clean water, clear sky without smog, clear food and all this is given to you for free from Mother Earth, who is a servent of Father Love, who born you to be happy non-stop, to play the game of Love, to be "one with The Father".
    Prove to me the existence of Mother Earth and Father Earth and I will bown down and call you master. Until that time I will remain Discordian, with a tinge of buddhist. You see, I do meditate. I do not sit on the floor attempting to meditate, I feel, I relax. I am not out of touch with this material world, for in my sacred science, as you put it, it is the only joke I can laugh at.

    Do not come here attempting to laugh or point your finger at me. I know the ways of Siddhartha, and know the ways of wicca. Come not here seeking easily convinced frail minds you can show your ultimate mastery of your own destiny, for you will find us, me at least, most capable of explaining the reason behind our personal philosophies.

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    [quote="HomoUniversalis"]

    From whence do you draw this conclusion? Perhaps my name is truthful, and I am a Universal Man, an enlightened being.
    If you were "enlightened", which is something that don't exist - enlightenment has to be practiced every day, so that you go higher every day, but if you were high enough, you would learn from everywhere you can, and you would not stick to your point. You would say thank you for teaching me, I'll apply this Knowledge and see the result for me and the beings around me.

    I think you(or your government) has made of you a lazy uncle, who works only for himself, and for what he thinks is his property

    Your thoughts are irrelevant. For someone coming to a science site professing sacred science, you presume a lot.
    It would be good if it were a presumption, but it is a conclusion based on your reaction to my words. You don't try to understand, you defend your way, finding arguments in "budhist dharma" in which you think you are advanced. If you were advanced in it, you would be advanced in the science I'm writing about, because all paths have a common goal - self - realization - to remember who is your real self. As long as you are defending your false self, your false ego, you are refusing to step on this sacred path.


    It has taken the pure being you were and made from you a hard worker for the money, which the tv tells you non-stop you need for survival.

    I haven't watched tv once in the last three weeks, and those times I do watch tv, its incidental. I do not own a mobile phone, and am not obsessed with material possesions.
    Not whatching tv is good. What is to be obsessed of material possesions? It means to leave everything to the mercy of The Father. He provides you with everithing you need. If you work for money, this means you are obsessed, or rather attached to the presumption that you will die of hunger if you don't work.


    If you do not suffer a consumeristic existence, why are you using a computer? After all, a computer is not a pure natural object.

    I use the computer in the service of My Father. I use it to fight the false philosophies, because of which there are so many hungry and suffering beings on this planet. The money I pay for the internet club I come to is from charity - I don't work for money.

    Judge me not, for you do not know me.

    I don't judge you, I teach and "whoever has ears, he will hear"

    No you need 1st clean air, clean water, clear sky without smog, clear food and all this is given to you for free from Mother Earth, who is a servent of Father Love, who born you to be happy non-stop, to play the game of Love, to be "one with The Father".
    Prove to me the existence of Mother Earth and Father Earth and I will bown down and call you master.

    I don't have to prove the existence of something, that is everywhere around you and everywhere. I just have to open your polluted senses. As I said many times, you already had sense for your true Father, but then you were taught not to enjoy His eternal Love, but to look for Love in material objects.

    Until that time I will remain Discordian, with a tinge of buddhist.

    No, as I said you are not a real Buddhist. You can't be a real Buddhist, and not advanced in this knowledge. If you were an advanced Buddhist, you would be an advanced Christian.

    You see, I do meditate. I do not sit on the floor attempting to meditate, I feel, I relax. I am not out of touch with this material world, for in my sacred science, as you put it, it is the only joke I can laugh at.

    Laughing is good for the health, but there is more you should do for the Planet than preserving your health. You should be happy and in this way make the others happy.

    Do not come here attempting to laugh or point your finger at me. I know the ways of Siddhartha, and know the ways of wicca. Come not here seeking easily convinced frail minds you can show your ultimate mastery of your own destiny, for you will find us, me at least, most capable of explaining the reason behind our personal philosophies.
    I already said "I don't seek glory from man" and "whoever has ears will listen"
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    You a Nichiren Buddhist? I have suffered your kind before. There is nothing you can say or utter that will make me chance your mind.

    As my eyes are polluted, as they say, so areyours, but your arrogance tells you, you are heading in the right direction. Instead of being humble like an enlightened being would be. My path leads to another destination than yours, apparantly, and you presume I am thus polluted. From whence do you draw this arrogance, the father or the mother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis
    You a Nichiren Buddhist? I have suffered your kind before. There is nothing you can say or utter that will make me chance your mind.
    I'm not any "buddhist" "christian" or whatever you may label me.
    chance your mind? what do you mean?
    As my eyes are polluted, as they say, so areyours, but your arrogance tells you, you are heading in the right direction. Instead of being humble like an enlightened being would be.
    No, that is another wrong conception. I am USING my arogance against your wrong philosophy, which comes not from "an enlightened being" as you label yourself, but from a being on lower level of consciousness.

    My path leads to another destination than yours, apparantly, and you presume I am thus polluted. From whence do you draw this arrogance, the father or the mother?
    I already said I don't "presume" anything. I am judging your level of Knowledge by what you write. Start to write Reasonably and I will judge that you are Reasonable. Continue to attack me, and I will know, you are a fool.
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    All other sciences are worthless, waste of time, a game for people, who don't know what is the purpose of their life.
    You attacked me, dear fool.

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    No, I haven't. I have nothing against you. I even love you and want to help you - exactly by telling the truth from which you are running away. You have association from your false ego to a wrong philosophy. That is not an attack on who you really are, but on you false self.
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