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    peace and love

    I'm not personally against Islam. I read Qur'an and there i discovered God is just. He equally loves every being. everyone is equal unto him. Nobody has been awarded the perfection not even the prophets But recently i have come across a person who is intelligent, academically brilliant, handsome, good looking and engaged with a beautiful girl. how can it be possible? i just dont understand how this man can be gifted with so many qualities?

    Why God is so unjust here? dont u think its an injustice of God/Allah?

    The question above is targeted for Muslims. However, if anybody comes out with a logical answer, please do so. I will appreciate


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    proberly cos he aint a muslim so he has been reading science and stuff books not the kuran, god hasn't touched him so he retains his natural features. is his name derek by the way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wert
    proberly cos he aint a muslim so he has been reading science and stuff books not the kuran, god hasn't touched him so he retains his natural features. is his name derek by the way?
    I expected a logical answer! sorry wert i cant reveal personal info of that person. I can only limit myself saying Hes a Muslim.
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    Health is what you make of it. If you are a healthy individual, you will look better.

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    No matter how you may perceive it this man is not perfect. He has his Achilles heel so to speak just like the rest of us. And blaming God or Allah for giving this man what you so clearly desire instead of giving it to you is completely ridiculous as well as counter-productive. Your life is exactly what you make it. No more, no less. You can sit around and wait for what you want in life to fall out of the sky but it's not going to happen. This may sound harsh but it annoys the crap out of me when people try to pass off responsibility for the world around them onto an abstract concept. And you may argue that God/Allah is not an abstract concept but untill you've met him and shook his hand, you have no definitive proof that he exists and therefore is abstract.
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    Is this really a serious question?! Not to be intentionally demeaning, but this sounds like the kind of question a ten year old would ask. Just because you aren't completely happy with your looks right now, or you don't have the girl of your dreams right now, therefore Allah is unjust??? First of all, do you really think that the concept of justice for a supernatural being is going to specifically include a way to make sure that YOU get what you want. Who are you to speculate or judge a supreme being's concept of justice? What makes you special anyway. . .the logical conclusion that could be drawn from your implicit assumptions is that everyone should have the "perfect" looks (whatever that would be :? ), and have the "perfect", beautiful mate. Put on your critical thinking hat please. What does it mean that he loves everyone equal? Should everyone have a nice car then, so it's equal? Everyone should have equal number of problems/money/anything. . . . . I just don't get it. The argument you put forth is quite unintelligible. Perhaps some may think I am being a little harsh here, or not helpful, but I thought this was supposed to be a forum for intelligent discussion. This topic hardly could contribute to that cause.
    P.S. Perhaps you should read the Qur'an more thoroughly. You think it says that God loves everyone equally??? HA! Just look at what it has to say about unbelievers. . . . .
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    Thanks everyone for your answers. It helped me somewhat that someone shouldn't blame God for his imperfection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist
    Is this really a serious question?! Not to be intentionally demeaning, but this sounds like the kind of question a ten year old would ask.
    Dear rationalist,

    Although you're harsh your logical answer is praiseworthy. If you think the question I asked was irrational then you are wrong. In your view, its irrational because you think you are intelligent. It was sensible to me for a time being until someone like you opened my mind so don't demoralize others. A person may not be as smart as you and may have some stupid questions. If rationalists like you do not come out and help, you're letting that person being a stupid for lifetime. Would you let it happen?
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    If you think the question I asked was irrational then you are wrong. In your view, its irrational because you think you are intelligent.
    No, your question being irrational, or whatever it may be, has nothing to do with my self-image. . .
    A person may not be as smart as you and may have some stupid questions. If rationalists like you do not come out and help, you're letting that person being a stupid for lifetime. Would you let it happen?
    You're right. . . . I could have been a little easier, but you could have thought out your position a little before putting forth an emotional post that asked for logical, philosophical answers. Then perhaps your argument would have been a little more intelligible.
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    Who ever you came across is not as blessed as you think he is. for every gift we are given is also a burden. people like him have to hide their flaws because they feel they would not be accepted with them. God is fair we just do see it sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkafil
    But recently i have come across a person who is intelligent, academically brilliant, handsome, good looking and engaged with a beautiful girl. how can it be possible? i just dont understand how this man can be gifted with so many qualities?
    Unlike others here apparently, I think the whole idea of fair is a load of nonsense. Or of course there is the Christian idea of fair, which is everyone roasting equally in hell. What is the good in a fairness like that do you think? Do we really want fair? Do we really want to be the same as everone else? Not I. And I am not sure that you really want that either. It seems to me that most people want to be special, and to be valued for exactly who they are. Do you really want to pretend to be someone else and be admired for such a lie?

    What if you were the one with all these advantages you talk about and he was the one without, would you be here asking how God could be so unfair? I don't think so. And yet this is no more fair than it is now. So for this reason in addition to my observation the people want to be special, I just don't think fair is really the issue. I think maybe you are really just looking for one little thing that makes you special and makes your life worthwhile. Well let me tell you that you are not going to find something like that by looking at others and comparing yourself to them. The things that make people great is not what they have or get for themselves but what they do for others and all that takes is the will to do such things.

    Frankly I think that if everthing were always fair througout history, the world would be a rather miserable place because no one would ever have been motivated to do anything good, let alone be allowed to do anything good. Why if we let someone do something good then he might be admired and that wouldn't be fair would it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mkafil
    Why God is so unjust here? dont u think its an injustice of God/Allah?
    I don't think this has anything to do with justice. Justice is about learning how our actions and choices have consequences. Therefore I think that, if God is just going to be someone to blame things on, then I really think that He would rather that you did not believe in Him at all. That way you might realize that it is up to you to get the things you want and to take responsibility for your life, yourself. The real question to ask yourself here and now is, "what kind of person do you want to be"? That is something I think that God can help you with.
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