November 25th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Would it be reasonable for every human on Earth to prepare themselves for eventual death by not accepting one religion but by accepting them all? I don't want to start another theist-atheist debate but this would also include preparing for oblivion without a god. A working knowledge of all religions would amount to a further stretching of Occam's Razor, improving one's afterlife chances even more wouldn't you think? Why stop at one belief when you can cover them all. So why don't we do it?
November 25th, 2007, 09:49 AM
I do in some ways. I am a Christian, Buddhist and Hinduist (more or less) and also believe in science too. I get on fine and as a result am very happy with the way that things happen in my life, (in general anyway).Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
November 25th, 2007, 10:21 AM
Because most people don't base their beliefs on Pascal's Wager.
November 25th, 2007, 04:40 PM
I'm talking about the simplest solution. Not all religions include a god. All religions believe they are right. So why not follow all of them just to cover your ass.
Zingy:
Several religions are mutually exclusive to the extent that if you accept one of them, you must reject all others. There is no way one could accept two mutually exclusive religions.
Actually, you do not really have to prepare yourself for death. You will die, anyway. You don't have to prepare for eternity. You will go into eternity, anyway. The only thing you need to worry about is where you will spend eternity. I do not know about other religions, but Christianity does not allow you to hedge your bets.
svwillmer said:
This is like saying I am a fish, a bird and a mammal.I do in some ways. I am a Christian, Buddhist and Hinduist (more or less) and also believe in science too. I get on fine and as a result am very happy with the way that things happen in my life, (in general anyway).
No. Christian following The LORD and God. Hinduist being reincarnation and attaining moksha, and Buddhism, well spirituality. It works for me.
People accept and reject all the time. Someome mentioned Pascal's Wager, methinks it loses some gusto, accept a religion and hope its the one. Can you straighten me out on something, if your parents were devout practicing (pick a religion) & Christianity was taboo in your household then would you be a Christian today? Doesn't your religion have a lot to do where you were born and raised?
Did I say that? A mistake on my part.Actually, you do not really have to prepare yourself for death. You will die, anyway.
You can worry for me.You will go into eternity, anyway. The only thing you need to worry about is where you will spend eternity.
Is Jesus God? Why can't all Christian sects agree on that one?I do not know about other religions, but Christianity does not allow you to hedge your bets.
I hope svwillmer is not insulted by that comparison.svwillmer said:
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I do in some ways. I am a Christian, Buddhist and Hinduist (more or less) and also believe in science too. I get on fine and as a result am very happy with the way that things happen in my life, (in general anyway).
Dayton's Reply
This is like saying I am a fish, a bird and a mammal.
At the risk of sounding preachy, what about basing one's life on doing the right thing rather than on winning a prize.
November 26th, 2007, 12:16 AM
Hardly anybody believes simply to "cover [their] ass".I'm talking about the simplest solution. Not all religions include a god. All religions believe they are right. So why not follow all of them just to cover your ass.
zinji asked:
It seems to me that when jeremy was futilely attempting to prove that more scientists are non believers, the studies he cited both concluded that upbringing and background were the most significant factors in determining one's eventual status as a believer or non-believer.Can you straighten me out on something, if your parents were devout practicing (pick a religion) & Christianity was taboo in your household then would you be a Christian today? Doesn't your religion have a lot to do where you were born and raised?
I cannot answer your hypothetical question because it is too far removed from my reality. I grew up in a home that was neither religious nor anti religious. I do not recall my parents ever going to church. My grandmother took me to Sunday school when I was very young and I attended church for a couple of years in high school because I thought it would look good on college applications. I went to college where I majored in partytime and playing cards while coasting through classes. Got out, got a job, got married, had kids, got divorced and then found Jesus, or He found me, whichever. . .
I think my growing up environment basically acceded to the existence of God but paid it no mind, a form I guess, of theistic agnosticism. This, I think, is actually the state of many of the 90 percent of the people in the U.S. who consider that they believe in God.
They agree that there is probably a God out there someplace but that He is not really relevant. I think most of them also think that to the extent He [probably exists, He is probably the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I do think, however, that the second question you asked is bass ackwards. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with where one is born and raised. The opposite is, indeed, the case. Where one is born and raised has a lot to do with his religious beliefs.
Oh, I forgot
Zinji also asked:
At the expense of sounding trite, mainstream Christianity does not consider that people who do not beleive Jesus is God are Christians.Is Jesus God? Why can't all Christian sects agree on that one?
It is an essential core belief of Christianity. If Jesus is not God, Christianity is no different than the Flying Speghetti Monster as the atheists and agnostics here correctly perceive. They understand this better than the **s and the ******s. (Hopefully Laurence Sterne will forgive my quasi plagerism!)
I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
tbh you don't know what criteria are going to be used on judgement day
so how would you know what the best way to hedge your bets is ?
so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
If that was The LORDs will, yes.so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
I don't bet. I don't know how I will be judged. I do what I feel is right, I am this way because God wants me to be.
so you are hoping it's not, the lords will then.If that was The LORDs will, yes.so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
I'm not hoping anything. Whatever will be will be, the futures not ours to see.so you are hoping it's not, the lords will then.If that was The LORDs will, yes.so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
so you dont think you'll be going to heaven then.I'm not hoping anything. Whatever will be will be, the futures not ours to see.so you are hoping it's not, the lords will then.If that was The LORDs will, yes.so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
I DON'T KNOW!so you dont think you'll be going to heaven then.I'm not hoping anything. Whatever will be will be, the futures not ours to see.so you are hoping it's not, the lords will then.If that was The LORDs will, yes.so you'd be happy to go to hell then.I do the right thing, not for reward, hence the old saying "To labor and not to ask for any reward".
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do you feel, given that you have belief in God, and you are a good person you might be considered.I DON'T KNOW!
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