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    Does any one believe the root of a religion shall be:
    1. Accept supremacy of God ( i.e. one shall accept, do not complaint to all the things happens irrespective of the out come - good or bad )
    2. Our reward will be according to our act & conduct, especially things we forgive to others. ( by act & conduct, I mean, responsibility we take, attitude, relation with others etc.)


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    Sounds reasonable to me. But only in the sence of religion.


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    Does any one believe the root of a religion shall be
    You mean SHOULD be? Yes, if a god existed.

    But it is neither.
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    You're still shouting in large red letters, mate. We'll either read this or not, respond or not, but the attention-getting will become irritating.

    In any case, how could one dictate a code of conduct for a delusion?
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    KALSTER, Can you explain your perception about GOD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinewarrio
    In any case, how could one dictate a code of conduct for a delusion?
    Sorry to bother you, could you pl. explain this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sak
    KALSTER, Can you explain your perception about GOD?
    firstly Kalster never said he had any perception at all, so it's a strange question, what he did was change you statement to read better, as you made the assumption that a god exist, you would first need to establish that, that was fact, and not fiction, and as kalster stated, "if a god existed. But it is neither."
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    In any case, how could one dictate a code of conduct for a delusion?
    Sorry to bother you, could you pl. explain this?
    read the above point, you have not established that a god exists, so it can only be deemed a fantasy, a delusion, do you understand now.
    A logician saves the life of a tiny space alien. The alien is very grateful and, since she's omniscient, offers the following reward: she offers to answer any question the logician might pose. Without too much thought (after all, he's a logician), he asks: "What is the best question to ask and what is the correct answer to that question?" The tiny alien pauses. Finally she replies, "The best question is the one you just asked; and the correct answer is the one I gave."
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    I have not answered the poll as I accept the supremacy of God and do what He says, I don't ask for a reward. I believe that classes as meek
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    Quote Originally Posted by sak
    KALSTER, Can you explain your perception about GOD?
    firstly … … neither."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinewarrio
    In any case, how could one dictate a code of conduct for a delusion?
    Sorry to bother you, could you pl. explain this?
    read the … … do you understand now.
    1. I don’t relate my words to above his post.
    2. nor the in existence.

    Looks like a women!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sak
    1. I don’t relate my words to above his post.
    2. nor the in existence.

    Looks like a women!
    what!
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense - Buddha"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sak
    Looks like a women!
    Was that a joke, or do you have something against women ?
    Eat Dolphin, save the Tuna!!!!
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    I said yes, since most likely the root cause of religion as a cultural phenomenon is to act as something of a supernatural police force. For that to work, the members of the population have to believe that their god has power over them and will punish/reward them for bad/good behavior. From this perspective, it is possible to answer this question even if you don't assume a god exists.

    PS, womEn is plural, and womAn is singular. I'm assuming you meant "Looks like a woman!" and I hope you meant pavlov's avatar, because other than that nothing that was said was very gender specific.
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    I am not a woman, dear Mr.SAK. But if I was, would that make my comment less relevant?
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    The poll is so poorly worded that it is impossible to answer. If the question is whether religions are based on these things, the answer is 'in part.' If OTOH the question whether religions should be based on these things, the answer is 'not particularly.'

    A definition of religion would help. If the definition is along the lines of (Wikipedia): A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law

    ...then behaviour and beliefs are important, although there is no specific mention of acceptance of a supreme being.

    If we base the definition on the latin derivation of the word:
    from Latin religare to bind back, implying obligation; or from relegere to select, distinguish among various elements for the choosing of the best; ponder

    ...then behaviour is again stressed, moreso than beliefs per se.
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    The root of religion is, 'Do as I say, not as I do.'
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