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About LinkBackshis young gay atheist lady has some anger to vent.
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/gr...ts-and-an.html
and can you blame her.
Religion after all does cause a multitude of problems
October 20th, 2007, 05:59 PM
his young gay atheist lady has some anger to vent.
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/gr...ts-and-an.html
and can you blame her.
Religion after all does cause a multitude of problems
October 20th, 2007, 06:41 PM
all you have done is indicate that christianity and islam has some problems (and even then, only in particular time, places and circumstannces - and given the political baggage that such terms are carrying at the moment, hardly an adroit conclusion )Originally Posted by susan
and even then, are the words christianity/islam and religion synonymous?
If not, better that you form a more honest conclusion to your suggestions of evidence
October 20th, 2007, 06:44 PM
All religions are harmfull in one way or the other, because they don't leave room for people to be different.all you have done is indicate that christianity and islam has some problems (and even then, only in particular time, places and circumstannces - and given the political baggage that such terms are carrying at the moment, hardly an adroit conclusion )
and even then, are the words christianity/islam and religion synonymous?
If not, better that you form a more honest conclusion to your suggestions of evidence
I got like a 5th of the way down and couldn't be bothered. In the UK all religious and non-religious people (mostly) tolerate and understand each other-its hard in London not to have at least 6 different religious or non-religious people in your group of friends-you do get on. The ones that kill others and make life a misery are the ones that say they have religon nut abuse it-force people to do things using it-that is the works of the devil (or some general person who hasn't got a life-which ever way you wanna look at it) who does it to force ill comforts between people-like beleivers and non-beleivers or both of the two, vice versa.
This person who wrote this in my 'stereotyped' opinion (even though it says it in the text) is a full blown USA citizen-they are always angry people and there is evidence to prove that the majority are-buts thats probably because of what was described in that text. I'll just say this, there are good people and there are bad people-both on believing sides and on non-beleiving sides-just see for yourself who is good and who is bad and then make your own assumption on why they are that way-then follow your way of life-and if it's wrong? You did whatever you thought was right given your upbrigning and circumstances so do your best.
PS it is has been proven through psychological research that religious people-TRUE religious people are much less angry-I myself still get angry at some drivers and other inconviniences, but don't get eat up by them as much. I still have a long way to go, but if you look at the ones who have true beleif-are invisible you would never known they were there. Just shows I don't really have true beleif-either that or I do and just want to help other people understand things in a calm mood. But thats just my interperetation of this angry person. One more thing-angry people aren't often in charge of anything due to that, so thats probably why most presidents are religious.
firstly you say you got about a fifth of the way down we'll come back to that, to the statement above could you provide links to this assertion thank you.you obviously hadn't read it at all as you assumed this person was constantly angry.-I myself still get angry at some drivers and other inconviniences, but don't get eat up by them as much. I still have a long way to go, but if you look at the ones who have true beleif-are invisible you would never known they were there. Just shows I don't really have true beleif-either that or I do and just want to help other people understand things in a calm mood. But thats just my interperetation of this angry person. One more thing-angry people aren't often in charge of anything due to that, so thats probably why most presidents are religious.
but if you had read the opening paragraph at least, you would have understood that.
heres what she said,
"I want to talk about atheists and anger.
This has been a hard piece to write, and it may be a hard one to read. I'm not going to be as polite and good-tempered as I usually am in this blog; this piece is about anger, and for once I'm going to fucking well let myself be angry."
please dont make a derogatory comment in the future, without at least reading what your condemning, thank you.
I apologise for whatever I insulted you by being the way I am. See your angry lol! I said it was my interpretation. I guessed you would have assumed that that was attributed to me not reading it. You do make a good point and are entitled to be angry. But then thats the whole point of that text, so it proves that atheists are generally more angry people-as you've proved that in this one instance. Thank you though for showing me what I did that could be misinterpereted I'll amend that in future posts.
PS I'd like to also say that atheists generally direct their anger in the way of believers and not between each other-Why is this? It is offensive when all we are doing is believing in something.
October 21st, 2007, 04:26 PM
in one word : yes
both may have spread out to become cultural phenomena, but in essence they still boil down to religion
October 21st, 2007, 04:45 PM
the only people who make such statements are those who's study of world religions are superficialAll religions are harmfull in one way or the other, because they don't leave room for people to be different.all you have done is indicate that christianity and islam has some problems (and even then, only in particular time, places and circumstannces - and given the political baggage that such terms are carrying at the moment, hardly an adroit conclusion )
and even then, are the words christianity/islam and religion synonymous?
If not, better that you form a more honest conclusion to your suggestions of evidence
October 21st, 2007, 04:47 PM
I think you miss the pointin one word : yes
both may have spread out to become cultural phenomena, but in essence they still boil down to religion
there is more to the word "religion" than two examples of it (and there is more to islam and christianity than the superficial politically surcharged versions of it you are alluding to)
This happens in every subject. The religion thread naturally becomes divided into two main groups, theist's and atheist's, with one or two agnostic's in between.
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And i'm pretty sure any sociologists would be/are creaming their pants reading though all the post's here.
religion is the belief in a non-existent entity/entities, that will grant them favours in life by prayer or offerings, and will give eternal life after death.
in other news, E = MC^2. theres more to it than that, but this is the essence of it.
What a friggin hypocrite
Annoying isn't it???
No such statements found at that link.
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/31/3/581 The truth is,
"Karachi, Pakistan, between October 1993 and January 1996, 4091 people sustained violent injuries" in a population of 16 million.
1 in 6 GUY? What did you read? You didn't even read the title or the conclusion!
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Well I would say that this blog is an interesting demonstration of how you can take a few legitimate causes for anger and outrage and blame it on something you want to make a target of hatred and then trump it up with a lot of self-serving subjective impressions and fustrations in order to paint your target as something monstrous. It is an old propaganda technique used at all times in history to manufacture justification for violence or self-serving manipulations of public opinion and politics.
There are plenty of religious people who share this persons anger for all the legitimate causes that are expressed in this blog and they are the ones who are really doing something constructive about them. Being one of these religious people I certainly have no wish to silence anyone about these concerns, but a rant is still a rant, and the irrational is still irrational, and the double standard judgements are still hypocritical. The world has a enough problems with people screwing things up with best of intentions because of ignorance and other types of personal inadequacies without going out your way to justify the hatred of other people.
To Greta I would say: Yeah ok, so you are angry. Go ahead and vent it if you like. But your fustration at the fact that the world is not going all your way according to your opinion of how it should, is just a little bit laughable. Grow up.
then your not looking, I'll help you out as it's seem too hard for you, to the left and just down the page, you will find "Search The World Factbook" click it and it takes you to another page this is where the info is you cant find, you just write in infant mortality rates and shazam, it's there, see how easy it is. hope that helps. NOTEWhat a friggin hypocrite
Annoying isn't it???
No such statements found at that link.bolded) I added the part you omited from my post, ok.
is this the same as the above quote of mine you posted, is it a direct quote from another site no! it's my presumption, do I state it as absolute truth, no! you have assumed it as fact.
Thats your failing I didn't supply a link, to verify it as fact, now did I. If you care to read the entire link you can workout, roughly how many deaths there are, and probably come to a similar conclusion, which of course I doubt, as trolls never do.
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Here here mitchellmckain. I'm glad that there are people alike in this world who can agree with each other. It is hypocritical of atheists to blame religion for problems in the world. After all what about people that are forced to live on the street? The sick and the poor that rich people make by taking their money-that is not religion that causes these problems-nor does it cause the problems of sociological neglect of children that grow up to be criminals and cause the notable problems.
Hardly any problems in this country are caused ny religious people-its only the fanatic ones who do. All religious people IN GENERAL day to day go abouts get along with each other-One of my friends is Hindu, one is Islamic-one is even Buddhist with me as the Christian and we get on so well and enjoy company and have our own philosiphies about the world.
Religion helps people-churches help the poor and the needy-they give support and advice. People turn to God because their so called 'friends' leave them and abuse them so they have nothing-it is then that some people may turn to God-knowing that there is someone that WILL help them in some way or form. Folks need hope to keep them going. Why take that away from them and why get mad about it. Sure religion in some places and times of the world has caused problems-but look at the good things it does on a daily basis.
To quote Futurama's God's philosiphy (which is spot on I beleive):
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all".
That makes a lot of sense-you know about suicide bombings by terrorists with extreme Muslim beleifs-you know them because what they do is wrong. But the religious people and people in general that help people is never seen by atheists and why? Because your anger is blindness. To quote a verse from a hymn.
"Was blind, but now I see".
Seems very appropriate, you don't understand because you cannot see it, if you did see it-you would understand why people have religion.
As for terrorists and how they got their religion? Who knows. All I know is that I beleive in God, Jesus etc and I am a happy person-granted I get a bit angry now and again, but I'm only human. As long as I'm happy and I don't hurt anyone with my beleifs-what is wrong with having them?
Can I ask where you get your 4091 figure from?
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