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  1. #1 Noah's ark 
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    what i want to know is : how did Noah fit a giant redwood on his ark ?
    + who went to go and get it from america ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    what i want to know is : how did Noah fit a giant redwood on his ark ?
    + who went to go and get it from america ?
    A seed. And he sailed to America in his Ark to get it after taking a detour down to Antarctica for a penguin egg. :wink:


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    Some of the animals from North America brought it over with them, I suppose.
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    It was likely a seed in the coconut shell carried by one of the swallows
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    as is well-known from monty python's holy grail the european swallow could not possibly lift a coconut, and the african swallow is not migratory
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    The official story is that it wasn't until Pegeg, one of Noah's descendants, that the continents were actually divided.
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    does that actually say so in the bible ? or is that an interpretation ?
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    Also if someone is checking their bible..... i read somewhere that Noah didn't take everything onto the ark in 2's or pairs, but in groups of 7, does anybody know if thats true ?
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    Yeah i remeber learning about that I think it was the Hermaphrodites and the birds but not exactly sure but it wasn't all the creatures that he took in groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat1981(England)
    Also if someone is checking their bible..... i read somewhere that Noah didn't take everything onto the ark in 2's or pairs, but in groups of 7, does anybody know if thats true ?
    I believe there were 7 pairs of clean & unclean animals and 7 pairs of birds brought on board. Besides building the boat, poor old Noah also had to build an altar after the flood abated. Very important if one is to kill the Earth's population, it had to be done right. Why Noah sacrificed animals after saving them from extinction at the same time is a bit puzzling.... but you know how God is sometimes. Apparently God loves the pleasant odor of burning flesh. Anything was better than rottting carcasses I guess.
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    and once the floods had subsided someone had to go all the way to california, plant the giant redwood seed, and hope that it would sprout + not get eaten / trampled by anything
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    How would you know if an animal was unclean? or clean and by the wya did thge animals spread around the globe or stick with noah and after a few generations move around? I know its off topic but hope someone answers it.
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    + how did he manage to keep predators and prey apart for sufficiently long so that the prey could build up its population to safe levels ? and what did the predators eat in the meantime ?
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    The official story is that it wasn't until Pegeg, one of Noah's descendants, that the continents were actually divided.


    Quote Originally Posted by MarnixR
    does that actually say so in the bible ? or is that an interpretation ?
    It says the "lands" were divided. There could be multiple interpretations, but it's unlikely people that far back had a word for "continent".

    It's Genesis 10:25 you can read it for yourself and decide. Unfortunately I only have my spanish bible handy, so I can't quote it here for you. (Unless you want the Spanish Reina-Valera 1960 revision version)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax
    (Unless you want the Spanish Reina-Valera 1960 revision version)
    yes please
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    My problem is: was there rainbows before the flood or did God make it a new natural phenomena post deluge?
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    I would be more worried about the fish. Contrary to what you might expect, floods tend to kill fish because the water is suddenly full of silt and all sorts of other things that are commonly found on dry land that fish don't handle well.

    But even ignoring that, there's the bigger problem of the water's salinity - most fish require either salt water or fresh water. They can tolerate some minor salinity changes, but in general you can't find a "happy median" that both salt-water and fresh-water fish can live in together. So, depending on whatever the salinity of the flood waters ended up being, either most of the fresh-water fish should have died or most of the salt-water fish should have died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    I believe there were 7 pairs of clean & unclean animals and 7 pairs of birds brought on board.
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    I would be more worried about the fish. Contrary to what you might expect, floods tend to kill fish because the water is suddenly full of silt and all sorts of other things that are commonly found on dry land that fish don't handle well.

    But even ignoring that, there's the bigger problem of the water's salinity - most fish require either salt water or fresh water. They can tolerate some minor salinity changes, but in general you can't find a "happy median" that both salt-water and fresh-water fish can live in together. So, depending on whatever the salinity of the flood waters ended up being, either most of the fresh-water fish should have died or most of the salt-water fish should have died.
    Plus the fish that require streams and inland waters to lay their eggs.
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