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    If there is/was one. Surely it’s got to be something. I have no idea. Should be easier to answer than where did God get his education.

    Flesh and blood? Pure energy? Pure thought? Some exotic matter that exists between the elements of our Periodic Table in another universe or dimension? Nuts and bolts as a machine? Geometry equations/dimensions? Nothingness? Quantum particles? Life should it actually be something tangible, not the life form? Something we cannot comprehend (my choice for number one consensus)?

    Any of those likely to have a chance of being true? Are there other theories?


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    I gave up on the idea of god after reading what Thomas Aquinas asked, forgive if I get the wording wrong this is from memory but hopefully you'll get the gist, "Can God make a boulder so heavy that even he cannot lift it".
    After some time thinking about this I concluded there couldn't be a God, at least not one in the traditional Christian sense, I'll explain my logic.

    To answer question is put a limit on God's power, the minute you limit God's power you're stuck with the question of where, how or who could limit God's power, effectively removing God from the answer to the be all and end of everything. Effectively God becomes somewhat irrelevant in the grand scheme of everything, and thus why would there even be a need for such a God to exist, answer unlikely that there is.

    So to get back to your question, if God does exist he's, in my opinion, made up of imagination - by extension anything that you would choose or imagine him to be made up of.


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    Only God knows.

    Could we message him for a reply here?
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    I heard one astrologer telling another she was ‘doing it wrong’….

    A friend told me she had been given and ‘extra strong’ homeopathic remedy…

    Just like all pseudoscience ..God is modelled according to your own taste. It can be whatever you like.
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    Good to hear from Ascended. Been awhile. I figure if god exists there would have to be something he’s made of. Surely the faithful might have some idea. You can find descriptions of God online from people who say they’ve met God personally and physically. Like this member of the Crossroads Church…

    My Encounter With God
    There is a knock on the door. I open it and there stands God. He is an older man with thick, long gray hair and he has a beard. He reminds me of Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead.
    A beard is certainly made of something. So is an old man. Obvious conclusion, God is made of components found in the universe. However the tendency might be to think it’s God adopting a human form. Biological alchemy?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-21056644
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    My Encounter With God
    There is a knock on the door. I open it and there stands God. He is an older man with thick, long gray hair and he has a beard. He reminds me of Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead.
    That describes the Roman god Jupiter, so perhaps it was him.
    The goddess I worship (Zorka) has a human body with long flowing hair who reminds me of Ursula Andress from the 1960's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chord View Post
    A friend told me she had been given and ‘extra strong’ homeopathic remedy…
    Homeopathy works to the point if you double the dilution it makes it twice as strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    My Encounter With God
    There is a knock on the door. I open it and there stands God. He is an older man with thick, long gray hair and he has a beard. He reminds me of Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead.
    That describes the Roman god Jupiter, so perhaps it was him.
    The goddess I worship (Zorka) has a human body with long flowing hair who reminds me of Ursula Andress from the 1960's.
    I probably would have thought God made of fire if she’d opened the door and it was aflame yet not burning. If you read her whole story you would see she might not have been mentally stable when God visited.

    I’m going to assume that whatever God would be made of that Heaven would also be composed of the same stuff. Going to have to read some accounts of people who claim they’ve been there to get some idea.

    What about manna, the substance God fed the Israelites? If it’s edible then what does that suggest, come from kitchens of heaven? If we can metabolize it and if not of this Earth then God would have to be organic? What about ambrosia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post

    I’m going to assume that whatever God would be made of that Heaven would also be composed of the same stuff. Going to have to read some accounts of people who claim they’ve been there to get some idea.

    What about manna, the substance God fed the Israelites? If it’s edible then what does that suggest, come from kitchens of heaven? If we can metabolize it and if not of this Earth then God would have to be organic? What about ambrosia?
    Anyone who thinks they actually saw "God", and reminded them of "Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead", was either having an LSD flash-back, or tripping out real-time.

    So in this definition, God is made up of neurological activity, much like a dream. Anyone seeing God during waking hours would therefore be considered psychotic. Seeing and hearing things which are not there is the best explanation of what God is made of. The construction is largely action potentials firing off in the brain of the deluded individuals who claim to see and hear something from heaven. Psychosis would also cover manna, and all manifestations of heaven, and even hell. The condition also covers many aspects of criminal behavior.

    So when someone says "the devil made me do it", it was their mind talking to them. Many cases of violent crimes are linked to psychoses. Lots of people hear and see thing which are not there. God and all such "derivatives" are constructs of abnormal neurological activity, and are therefore made up of illusions. Seems unlikely to be made of anything of "substance", upon which the rest of us base reality.
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    Hello zinjanthropos, thank you for the warm welcome.

    I started off thinking about God taking human form and got distracted by reminiscing over the film Dogma where God gets trapped in the body of a comatose Skee-Ball player.

    If God were to take on human appearance, I wondered if it would necessitate being made of the same atoms and cells as us.

    But if that were the case, unless he was altering the laws of physics, his atoms and cells would be just as vulnerable as ours, which doesn't exactly track with the notion of omnipotence, so why would he need to be.

    If God has a beard and that beard is made of something then where did that something come from?

    I start off with one question which leads to others that have only seemingly paradoxical answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Hello zinjanthropos, thank you for the warm welcome.

    I started off thinking about God taking human form and got distracted by reminiscing over the film Dogma where God gets trapped in the body of a comatose Skee-Ball player.

    If God were to take on human appearance, I wondered if it would necessitate being made of the same atoms and cells as us.

    But if that were the case, unless he was altering the laws of physics, his atoms and cells would be just as vulnerable as ours, which doesn't exactly track with the notion of omnipotence, so why would he need to be.

    If God has a beard and that beard is made of something then where did that something come from?

    I start off with one question which leads to others that have only seemingly paradoxical answers.
    Never saw that movie but definitely going to look for it and watch. Skee Ball was my favourite carnival game as a kid. Imagining god eating greasy fries and cotton candy.

    Could be wrong but I think it matters not where something came from when discussing what something would be made of. Good point about Gods vulnerability should he decide to be a human.

    Now people claim ghosts, pixies, fairies etc are real. If so then what would they be made of, same stuff a deity is made of? The problem may be that people also believe some organisms/animals exist despite lack of any evidence. Bigfoot, leprechauns etc. Do these critters that achieve mythical status, are they comparable to God? In essence, composed of the same something God would be composed of?
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    If God has made the universe, one of two possibilities exists, the matter and energy that we know of is the same as what God is made of, or he's made of something different. Once we break this down it gives an angle for investigation - if God is made of something different, we can start to look for things that don't match our understanding, concluding in a new discovery of whatever it is.

    If he is made of the same matter or energy we can understand, then we can use a process of elimination to eventually narrow it down to the right matter or energy.

    The real issue is finding a reliable source of evidence to start said enquiry. If you start with the basis of those claiming to have seen God must have seen something, it must be something capable of reflecting photons, but it's still entirely premised on the credibility of the supposed witnesses.

    I think you might like Dogma, I really enjoyed it. You can't take it too seriously it's daft but great fun to watch especially with Alan Rickman, here's a trailor.

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    Ascended…Saw there’s a free version on YouTube. Will watch it for sure.

    Question: Why is Bigfoot considered flesh & blood whereas for many believers, God is something completely different? I don’t think there’s any proof either are real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    If God has made the universe, one of two possibilities exists, the matter and energy that we know of is the same as what God is made of, or he's made of something different. Once we break this down it gives an angle for investigation - if God is made of something different, we can start to look for things that don't match our understanding, concluding in a new discovery of whatever it is.

    If he is made of the same matter or energy we can understand, then we can use a process of elimination to eventually narrow it down to the right matter or energy.

    The real issue is finding a reliable source of evidence to start said enquiry. If you start with the basis of those claiming to have seen God must have seen something, it must be something capable of reflecting photons, but it's still entirely premised on the credibility of the supposed witnesses.

    I think you might like Dogma, I really enjoyed it. You can't take it too seriously it's daft but great fun to watch especially with Alan Rickman, here's a trailor.

    Just watched it. It was pretty good. Don’t think it will make a believer out of me though. In fact it accentuated the stupid things people accept to be one. My favourite part was God’s handstand.
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    Hi zinjanthropos, I don't want to hog your thread, but since no one else is choosing to answer, I can put forth my idea.

    My impression, with Bigfoot and indeed most cryptozoological creatures, it's easy to believe that they could be actual flesh & blood animals, even if you've never seen one, not too different from believing in dinosaurs. We know there are millions of other species on the planet besides us, so it's just not such a stretch to believe things from myth and legend with actual substance could be out there somewhere among them.

    I think the real issue with trying to apportion even any sort of form, let alone flesh, with God, is that it pins it down to a specific thing, essentially exactly what you're trying to do. But this isn't what believers seem to want, if you could suddenly say with evidence that God is made from flesh and bone, it would surely make a lot of folks very unhappy, to them, God is supposedly this magical omnipotent being, everywhere yet always with them watching. You could never convince the true believers he was made of flesh, bone or indeed anything else.

    The notion of God, despite religious scripture, still appears to be a very personal thing, you could take any two believers and talk with them for long enough, you'll see their understanding of what God is diverges in different ways.

    As for Dogma, I'm pleased you enjoyed film, God makes for a nice twist in this movie, kind of 'almost' makes you want it to be real.
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    I guess Zin could reopen his God Lab and deploy men in white coats to get to work on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    I guess Zin could reopen his God Lab and deploy men in white coats to get to work on this one.
    How ya doin ox? God Labs looking for funding, care to donate? We’d put a God together for you but can’t figure out the ingredients. Imagination just to difficult to mine so maybe we should start there. Find out what imagination actually is and start digging. Another good lead was in the cryptozoology sector, if flesh and blood was good enough for mythological beasts why not for an Almighty? Ghost composition seemed promising….alas, unable to keep ectoplasmic residue stable for more than a microsecond, gone before you know it’s there. Running out of ideas.
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