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    Back in the news again and always the tip of the iceberg.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270

    Young people have no defence against older people when it comes to faith.
    There must be a Freudian element to this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    Young people have no defence against older people when it comes to faith.
    Science is a pretty good defense against faith. It produces tangible results that everyone can see everyday, and everywhere.

    While those results are both positive and negative, science does not rely on dusty old books with fairy tales.

    But the threat of faith against reality is still a force, and there are too many young people still buying into it. That is the biggest concern - ignorance.

    It is like the coronavirus - it seems we may never be rid of faith. But we have the truth of science to fight off most of the nonsense.


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    So why does faith appear to grow stronger the more it's discredited by science?
    The God Delusion hasn't done much to counter faith, much to the chagrin of Dawkins..
    Even 911 seemed to harden it.

    I suppose you could argue that the child abuse by priests and nuns in Ireland has diminished the Catholic Church, but only to the benefit of evangelists and others.
    But, I hear some say, religion helps keep the little people under control, and the scientists are more like the elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    So why does faith appear to grow stronger the more it's discredited by science?
    The God Delusion hasn't done much to counter faith, much to the chagrin of Dawkins..
    Maybe it is like science fiction movies and the ability to believe in things one wants to be true, and not what really is true. People are so gullible because they lack knowledge.

    The current state of the world offers a supreme example of ignorance over knowledge. Of course greed and power play a large role.

    One would think that science, with all its proofs, would become the ultimate "religion". But it takes too much effort and thinking to understand it.

    Faith is like a movie out of Hollywood - sit back and suck it in. Often fantastical, and readily believable to many. And without reading a single word. Much like all the religions.

    Just listen to the charlatans. They also tell fine, fantastical stories.
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    I think majority of the believers (if they are capable to make their personal choice) stick to religion for reason of fear of death and suffering. Or experiencing some unjustice. Fear of death without any kind of afterlife or resurrection is not a something that a regular human mind can tolerate. In minority of people (the believers) there is also striving for something transcendental and supernatural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Helix View Post
    One would think that science, with all its proofs, would become the ultimate "religion".
    You can herd theists, but scientists are like cats - you can't herd them.
    Why should you accept Big Bang cosmology when you have a loving creator?

    But the 'god of love' hasn't always been that way.
    I remember when 'he' was to be feared and would be wrathful.
    Like I'm old enough to remember when teachers at faith schools would carry out 'gods will'.
    Boys would be led into a room with just the teacher and asked to lower their pants and be whipped with a cane.
    A boy was meant to enjoy it because it was for Jesus, and on one occasion it happened to me.
    Even though I hadn't done anything much wrong I just had to accept it as normal.

    I'm almost sure that not only religious establishments, but schools at one time acted like up front places for child abuse.
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    Catholic Church finds answer, and it's incapable of sexual abuse.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-proposes.html

    Let's hope so.
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