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    Several parts of the Bible describe God as a entity of light, omnipresent and all-powerful. He holds the Universe together.
    Light is omnipresent as well, and electromagnetism is what holds atoms and molecules together. SO if God is light, than He CAN exist. It is not proof but merely a concept that suggests He can exist.
    Does anyone have a view on this matter? Any questions?


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    It sounds a bit daft and illogical to me... You are starting with a myth invented by nomadic bronze age shepherds and crowbarring a modern concept they would have had no knowledge of in to fit... not normally a productive thing to do!

    Anyway I won't be offering any prayers up to my light bulbs in the near future!


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    I'm not really religious, but I came across this concept in a book once and it caught my interest.
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    Stuff you find in books may be in error.
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    @PhDemon

    "Anyway I won't be offering any prayers up to my light bulbs in the near future"

    Very good
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_matter25275 View Post
    Several parts of the Bible describe God as a entity of light, omnipresent and all-powerful
    Other parts describe god as a mass murderer.

    He holds the Universe together.
    With gravity I assume.

    Light is omnipresent as well,
    In a black hole as well?
    I'd really like to know why god created black holes.

    electromagnetism is what holds atoms and molecules together.
    So how did god create the e/m force?

    SO if God is light, than He CAN exist.
    Only in the imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Stuff you find in books may be in error.
    Yes I know. However, it does make sense. I don't know about Jesus and all that, but God could exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dark_matter25275 View Post
    Several parts of the Bible describe God as a entity of light, omnipresent and all-powerful
    Other parts describe god as a mass murderer.

    He holds the Universe together.
    With gravity I assume.

    Light is omnipresent as well,
    In a black hole as well?
    I'd really like to know why god created black holes.

    electromagnetism is what holds atoms and molecules together.
    So how did god create the e/m force?

    SO if God is light, than He CAN exist.
    Only in the imagination.
    In response to ox's comments:
    1. I think the bible is mostly fiction, so I got nothing on that.
    2. Electromagnetism holds things together, not gravity. Gravity is the force that is caused by an object's imprint on space-time. Electromagnetism is the force that holds that object's atoms together.
    3. A black hole? I gotta think about that.
    4. According to the theory, God is that e/m force.
    5. Maybe, Maybe not
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    .Light is omnipresent as well,
    In a black hole as well?
    Like. So much for all powerful, god(light) can’t escape gravity. Reminds me of that question....can god create an object he can’t lift?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    "Anyway I won't be offering any prayers up to my light bulbs in the near future!"
    Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    .Light is omnipresent as well,
    In a black hole as well?
    Like. So much for all powerful, god(light) canít escape gravity. Reminds me of that question....can god create an object he canít lift?
    Hmmm....... Maybe gravity is something that God can't control..... something that has always been there, even before God and Light
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_matter25275 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Stuff you find in books may be in error.
    Yes I know. However, it does make sense. I don't know about Jesus and all that, but God could exist.
    A definite maybe (or maybe not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_matter25275 View Post
    Maybe gravity is something that God can't control..... something that has always been there, even before God and Light
    Then god has lost control of his own creation?
    I demand he's voted out.
    You'd be more correct by saying that god is gravity, rather than God is that e/m force.
    Until we have a confirmed theory of quantum gravity this speculation is bound to continue.

    Except that anything from a theistic point of view will be reinterpreted for whatever suits.
    You are trying to find your way into the God of the Gaps.

    I find it interesting that theism works off 2 main ideas:
    Why is there something rather than nothing and there are no atheists in foxholes.
    Both are weak arguments.
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    great response ox
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_matter25275 View Post
    Several parts of the Bible describe God as a entity of light, omnipresent and all-powerful. He holds the Universe together.
    Light is omnipresent as well, and electromagnetism is what holds atoms and molecules together. SO if God is light, than He CAN exist. It is not proof but merely a concept that suggests He can exist.
    Does anyone have a view on this matter? Any questions?
    You need to read better books. Your premise contains deep flaws. Electromagnetism is not solely what holds atoms together. Photons are not the only force carriers. If they were, you would not be able to explain the existence of atoms with, say, two protons. Pretty limiting, Iíd say!
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    God cant be light , that doesn't make any sense
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    God can be anything and do anything, if you are a believer. The bible, etc. were written by people to explain things they didn't know about. From a scientific point of view, their ideas are primitive to say the least.
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    Maybe it makes more sense to say God is darkness. I mean, before light there had to be dark. Yet perhaps dark came later. What came first, light or dark? But if god was light then he would have grown some darkness over the years.

    Is the universe dark? I mean it seems a pretty clear medium. I guess something can be clear and dark, neither of which are colours. But how would I know if something is clear unless I shine light thru it?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    I still don't know who wrote the old testament bible
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    Quote Originally Posted by jungleboyx View Post
    I still don't know who wrote the old testament bible
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament
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    ALOHA!

    I don't believe in god.............nice fantasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    What came first, light or dark?
    As the universe was conjured up by wizards this question is invalid.

    I know what you're going to ask - what conjured up the wizards?
    Simples. The wizards conjured up themselves.

    So the answer is neither light nor dark. It was wizards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jungleboyx View Post
    I still don't know who wrote the old testament bible
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament
    Thanks for that link .
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    tk421

    ALOHA!

    I don't believe in god.............nice fantasy
    Always good to see you online -- I hope all is well with you and your family in Year 2 of COVID!

    Yes, attempts at scientific arguments to prove the existence of god always fall short. This particular one couldn't even get the basic science right, so it fell apart rather quickly.
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