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    Lets say for a moment that sometime in the future all the data known about each religion in the world is fed into a quantum computer. The goal is establish which of the religions have the best chance of being the real deal. The result shows that X religion has the least chance of being the one true religion. What happens next?

    I'm sure any religion that gets ranked low will contest the findings. In the countries where religion rules, will it result in the banishment of quantum computers? Will there be huge conversions to religions ranked higher? What about war breaking out? Or nothing changes. I'm sure there's other possibilities and to be fair the same goes for atheists who might get told that non belief is wrong in another quantum computer analysis. I'd just like to be there when it happens.


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    What happens if all religions end up with rank 0? AI is an atheist?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    What happens if all religions end up with rank 0? AI is an atheist?
    I don’t think theists would believe that result. I guess you’d have more than one religion unhappy with AI. I wouldn’t label a machine atheist but someone may object to atheist behaviour. Might witness the hypocrisy of trusting AI for everything but religion.

    Would AI have free will?
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    Why hypocrisy? I don't think all religious people are hypocrites, but some probably are. Could AI be right? Anything supernatural could be zeroed out by AI.
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    How does an AI program verify (to is own satisfaction,I guess) that it is right?

    Who asks the question btw?Does the question asked determine the range of possible answers?

    Can AI give as an answer "none of the above"?(I have no particular question in mind)
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    It s too premature to say what AI can do. But my years of program development leads to believe that programs (AI or otherwise) can't "think", but only follow orders.
    Verification by an AI program is only meaningful if the programmer accepts it. Other people may not agree with the programmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    It s too premature to say what AI can do. But my years of program development leads to believe that programs (AI or otherwise) can't "think", but only follow orders.
    Verification by an AI program is only meaningful if the programmer accepts it. Other people may not agree with the programmer.
    Am I right to say that, with AI the link between the programmer and the algorithm is much more tenuous?

    Can we talk about such a link as "pro forma"?
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    Programmers write programs based on algorithms, so the link is far from tenuous.
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    I thought that AI was supposed to "learn on its own".

    Does that not give such programs a degree of independence from the initial algorithm.

    Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
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    I thought that AI was supposed to "learn on its own".

    Does that not give such programs a degree of independence from the initial algorithm.

    Have I got the wrong end of the stick?

    Am I perhaps confusing AI with neural networking?
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    "Learn on its own" is deceptive. The programmer has to define the term for the computer, i.e. what it is supposed to do. The computer cannot go beyond its instructions. Example: Watson can beat chess champions because the programmers programmed it to search for winning moves and how too evaluate positions.

    I don't know anything about neural networking. However, it involves setting up a computer to do something, my caveats apply.
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    I am afraid that AI or anything else cannot affect the existence of many religions in the world; besides the different sects in each of them.

    I will try my best to explain the reason since English is my 3rd language (after French and Arabic).

    We like it or not, humans are pre-programmed with instructions to help them survive and prosper as it is the case of all other living things.
    We usually call these instructions (that follows various complex algorithms, not discovered all yet), instincts for survival. So, in general, humans don’t mind living in formal groups which are formed and organized by a certain law/rules. These groups could be called, for example, social, sportive, scientist, political or religious. And a mature person likely finds himself belonging to one or more of these groups in order to have a better chance of survival, if not for some extra bonuses as well.

    Therefore, if AI or anything else will be able to affect the existence of any of these groups, starting from the different political ones, then it may do it also for the man-made religions.

    By the way, when I was a newcomer into life, I used insisting on seeing the world the way I liked it to be. But since many decades (I am 71), I tried my best to discover the real world instead; how it runs on the ground, not how it is presented by various great speeches addressed to billions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerimF View Post
    I am afraid that AI or anything else cannot affect the existence of many religions in the world
    Er....
    Therefore, if AI or anything else will be able to affect the existence of any of these groups, starting from the different political ones, then it may do it also for the man-made religions.
    It can't and it also may do?
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