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    What youíre going to find when searching Google for articles on the universe being a simulation is plenty of them. You can bring it up in a conversation but donít be surprised if people have an opinion, everyone seems to have heard of it. So I got to thinking about what science or people in general might believe is proof that we are living in a simulation. Found this article:

    https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/15-i...imulation.html

    Irrefutable evidence the title claims. Where have I heard that before? Suddenly thereís factual information? However I wonder if thatís how a religion starts. Is it simply an attempt to make sense of what we experience and if it sounds good then run with it? Science appears to unintentionally giving this one a hand which may possibly giving some credibility to it.

    Are we ushering in a new age for religious belief? Does having a simulator(s) present more realism than trusting in the existence of a sky fairy god?

    I liked the 15 proofs in the article even if they sound goofy because I think it shows people are paying attention to science and are using science to explain or possibly clear up some inconsistencies they may have with their present beliefs, idk.

    Anyways this all started when I wondered if I would be able to communicate with my creator/simulator if I was a simulation? I would think so in some way if only to provide the simulator with information it may be searching for, particularly if itís a study of some sort. I was surprised that #16 didnít cover the belief in prayers being answered. Can you think of any more possible proofs (i.e. deja vu).


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    The religion could involve methods to disestablish oneself and one's family from the simulation and become integrated into the unmasked reality.

    It is actually all around if you know where to look and it gives you a natural high when you set out on the path of "direct experiential encounters"

    If you spread this knowledge with others you will be rewarded with tokens that can be redeemed at a discount at the "Centres of Expansion"

    Some notable celebrities are rumoured to had entered this "bi-state" and only remain with us for now until the "Great Transmigration" is put in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    The religion could involve methods to disestablish oneself and one's family from the simulation and become integrated into the unmasked reality.

    It is actually all around if you know where to look and it gives you a natural high when you set out on the path of "direct experiential encounters"

    If you spread this knowledge with others you will be rewarded with tokens that can be redeemed at a discount at the "Centres of Expansion"

    Some notable celebrities are rumoured to had entered this "bi-state" and only remain with us for now until the "Great Transmigration" is put in place.

    Links to follow.
    Good grief! Has someone already got the religion in full swing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    The religion could involve methods to disestablish oneself and one's family from the simulation and become integrated into the unmasked reality.

    It is actually all around if you know where to look and it gives you a natural high when you set out on the path of "direct experiential encounters"

    If you spread this knowledge with others you will be rewarded with tokens that can be redeemed at a discount at the "Centres of Expansion"

    Some notable celebrities are rumoured to had entered this "bi-state" and only remain with us for now until the "Great Transmigration" is put in place.

    Links to follow.
    Good grief! Has someone already got the religion in full swing?
    Well it was Covid-19 and the talk of a second wave that really built the enthusiasm.

    Self isolation pods have become karmic reservoirs of harmonic feedback where players ,either singly or as a group bathe in filtered photonic meta transmissions.

    A bit far out for some ,but effective nonetheless.
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    Does it do us any good to believe in a simulation? Can a simulation truly believe? I mean it's only simulated. Even the simulator cannot 100% believe what it's seeing, can it? I'd sooner believe in time travel to observe than a simulation....maybe a simulator is proof time travel into the past isn't possible or its own science hasn't managed to accomplish it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Does it do us any good to believe in a simulation? Can a simulation truly believe? I mean it's only simulated. Even the simulator cannot 100% believe what it's seeing, can it? I'd sooner believe in time travel to observe than a simulation....maybe a simulator is proof time travel into the past isn't possible or its own science hasn't managed to accomplish it yet.
    Not sure of relevance ,but for some time before I had heard anything on the subject of simulated universes (is that to do with holographs?)

    I had this bee in my bonnet about the relationship between form and substance and I looked at "form" as a kind of shell that gave substance meaning.
    So ,if a simulated universe was just a "form" that us "indwellers"experienced as "substance" then what would be the objection?

    Life itself ,as we experience it is very much a "here today ,gone tomorrow" so we should be accustomed to absurd realities and our fate as cosmic castaways .

    Perhaps a simulated existence might give us more "duration"

    "travel light"?
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    Latest on subject - Oct 13, 2020 Scientific American "Do We Live in A Simulation - Chances are About 50-50"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Latest on subject - Oct 13, 2020 Scientific American "Do We Live in A Simulation - Chances are About 50-50"
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...e-about-50-50/

    There's a link (haven't read it yet)
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    Never heard of the idea...sounds like woo. Sure, some part of religion is just in the telling and retelling---augmented as needed to survive and spread...or just whither.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Latest on subject - Oct 13, 2020 Scientific American "Do We Live in A Simulation - Chances are About 50-50"
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...e-about-50-50/

    There's a link (haven't read it yet)
    Dont know why theists aren’t rushing to get on the bandwagon here. I mean no matter how they look at it, our universe is a creation by an outside intelligence. And just think, we can’t die. For one thing, we never were alive in the first place but when the computer code that comprises us runs out it can always be copied and brought back later. The Rapture comes to mind. Plus if the simulator can create a universe then heaven, hell or a hereafter can’t be a stretch. In fact any theist could get whatever their religion has been promising once their time is up. Every miracle ever described and associated with religious belief could very well happen in a simulated universe. Seriously, if the universe is ever proven to be a simulation I’d consider a leap of faith(?) to theism.
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