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    Is it possible to define a religion without anything supernatural?


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    Is Humanism a religion?

    Does it put humanity on a pedestal compared to other life forms?

    Would that be a form of "supernaturalism ", denying one's place in the natural "order" of life ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Is Humanism a religion?

    Does it put humanity on a pedestal compared to other life forms?

    Would that be a form of "supernaturalism ", denying one's place in the natural "order" of life ?
    Off hand I wouldn't call it supernatural, since nothing outside of nature is postulated, only relationships within nature.
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    OK,I suppose so.

    If religions need an element of supernatural in them , that would make sense since there is no way to refute such an ideology. (except when the rain fails)

    They have their own "safe space" and imagination (and usefulness ) is their only limit.

    A bit like Trump and his lies:If you go there it only seems to to validate and propagate them.
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    I see a "similar thread" below featured John Galt /Ophiolite as the OP back in 2013.

    He was a great poster...

    Can the supernatural be studied scientifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Is it possible to define a religion without anything supernatural?
    Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh now aged 98 and probably in poor health now, is a deity to some.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement

    However he did have an amazing escape from a car crash this year.

    What is your definition of religion?
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    I had a car crash recently (only my car - totalled) but I wasn't hurt al all. However it made me realize I couldn't drive safely anymore (I'm 90). Was that a religious experience?
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    Pinch yourself.Does it seem real?

    Edit:well done on reaching 90
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    The experience was real. I became aware that I had blanked out and the car sideswiped a rock outcropping.
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    Did you blank out before you went into the rock outcropping?

    If so,why do you think that happened? We're you tired?
    If I feel tired I generally pull over and take a nap for 20 minutes or so.Otherwise I can feel my concentration drifting and don't feel safe.

    Brendan Grace a stand-up comedian who sadly died very recently had a trenchant take on drinking and driving (I think he may have had a few run ins with the Police in his time)

    https://youtu.be/8yy8MLmxCEk
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    The collision was sudden - If I had blanked out earlier, something less drastic like going onto a grassy shoulder would have jarred me.

    It was not drowsiness or drinking. I believe it is an effect of aging. I've noticed that if something doesn't have my full attention, my mind wanders. At the time of the accident, there was no other traffic. I've became aware of this wander often when watching a show - I suddenly realize I have no idea what's going on.
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    I think I know what you mean.

    But if I am also tired when driving it gets much worse.When I was younger my powers of concentration were much stronger (although much of my concentration was "peripheral" and I could "catch up" quickly if I missed something.
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    When offline, there is at the bottom of the OP an ad for Esmeralda (psychics) complete with Zodiac signs and beside it a video on how to improve your golf swing. I think the psychic is the supernatural religious experience and golf is the religion, maybe the other way round if it suits your purpose.

    Be nice if Esmeralda could tell me the video won't improve my Arian golf swing forever but who wants to hear bad news, especially if you have to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    a video on how to improve your golf swing.
    That truly would be a supernatural experience if a video could improve my swing.
    Reminds me of Lee Trevino quote. In a thunderstorm hold your 1 iron aloft, because not even God can hit a 1 iron.
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