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    The ancient Greek religion seem to me quite bizarre logically, especially from modern standpoint, and it makes me wonder how people were able to invent such bizarre and in the same time consistent and extremely detailed myths. How did they succeed to do it thousands of years ago and those myths are very well elaborated.
    What is strange about Greek religion? Well, for example their supreme deity Zeus, who's superiority and supreme authority among other gods is not even questionable is not creator of the Universe, but also younger than many other gods. He is younger than his two brothers - Aid and Poseidon, also he has father Chronos and grandfather Uranus. Also he has mother Rhea and grandmother Gaia. Some sources claim that Zeus had even grand-grandfather(!) who is Aether. Aether was son of Erebus. Possibly Zeus also had uncles and aunts, grandmother's brothers or sisters. Zeus came to power after having overthrown his father and his father came to power in a similar way. According to my understanding there is no single conscious creator of the entire known Universe in Greek religion. Even supreme gods are very human-like. They are capable to have human lovers and children in union with humans. They eat and drink. They live in particular place - Olympus. There is also many other illogical things. Can you explain it?


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    The problem is you're trying to treat Greek mythology as a monotheistic religion, rather then the pantheon created by a patriarchal society that it is...


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    I fail to see how the ancient Greek Religion is any more illogical than any other religion, including Christianity. Jesus is the son of God, but also God himself, how the hell is that more logical than Zeus having parents?

    According to Hesiod, the first being in Greek religion was Chaos, from whom Gaia, Uranus, Ourea, Pontus, Tartarus, Erebus, Nyx, Aether, Hemera, and Eros were born. Gaia and Uranus then gave birth to the Titans, the Hecatonchires, cyclops, and Echidna. Uranus also techincally created Aphrodite when he castrated Uranus with a scythe and threw the genitals into the sea, this formed seafoam which then gave birth to her.

    Anyways, as Paleo noted, they were not monotheistic, they were polytheistic, Zeus was just one of many Gods and other deities. Hell he wasn't even the most powerful. He relied on help from Hades and Poseidon to overthrow the Titans. He wasn't like the god of all gods, he was simply the head of the Olympian gods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconer360 View Post

    According to Hesiod, the first being in Greek religion was Chaos...
    But did they assume the Chaos had any resemblance to a normal conscious being?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
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    According to Hesiod, the first being in Greek religion was Chaos...
    But did they assume the Chaos had any resemblance to a normal conscious being?
    not really, why does it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
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    According to Hesiod, the first being in Greek religion was Chaos...
    But did they assume the Chaos had any resemblance to a normal conscious being?
    Depends on the person. Hesiod maintained that Chaos was both a place and a being like Tartarus and Uranus. While Ovid (who was Roman), wrote that Chaos was just the primordial void, an unformed being/mass. One thing to keep in mind is that ancient Greek religion had lots of regional variants, a lot of different gods had different origin stories based on region. Egyptian gods were the same way.
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