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  1. #1 What is Your Religion? 
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    Well, what is it, do you follow anything or not or what?. I myself believe in a lot of Buddhism. But, I don't really follow a religion. That is what a like about Buddhism not many commitments and no higher being to pray to.


    All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else.
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    My name states my position!.

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    His name states my opinion... :wink:

    I do not believe in any gods or metaphysical states of the mind, meaning souls, ghosts and the afterlife in general.
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    ahemmmmmm, *coughs*, you go to this thread and read the POLL and add your
    two cents?


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    Okie dokie
    All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else.
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    I don't really have one:

    <blockquote>• "God" is a word that describes the entirety of all conditions through all dimensions.
    • Existence may be deterministic.
    • One must imagine Sisyphus happy. (Camus)
    • Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. (Crowley)
    • It is possible to determine morality objectively.</blockquote>

    <center>The Himog

    A red rose absorbs all colours but red;
    red is therefore the one colour that it is not.

    This Law, Reason, Time, Space, all Limitation blinds us to Truth.

    All that we know of Man, Nature, God, is just that which they are not;
    it is that which they throw off as repugnant.

    The HIMOG is only visible in so far as He is imperfect.

    Then are they all glorious who seem not to be glorious,
    as the HIMOG is All-glorious Within?

    It may be so.

    How then distinguish the inglorious and perfect HIMOG
    from the inglorious man of earth?

    Distinguish not!

    But thyself Ex-tinguish: HIMOG art thou, and HIMOG shalt thou be.
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    "A red rose absorbs all colours but red; red is therefore the one colour that it is not." (Perdurabo)
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    I'm a christian Antiatheistite.

    Antisemite, according to the dictionary, is one who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.

    I'm the same, but in terms of atheists not jews.
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    Well nice to see you Cool Skill.

    How about "The village, The Sequel?" LOL

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    I don't think there will be a sequal. I still have hope that all is not lost with the original.
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    hey, coolskill,
    Why would you be prejudiced against people who seek the truth through evidence? its these people who gave us such great advances through society. Jehova witnesses still don't believe in blood transfusions. How archaic. If the bible were true, why does our interpretation of it change with the times? Don't we just make our own morals and then interpret the bible in a way that fits our beliefs? Doesn't that mean God is not very useful?
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    I'm christian, but might covert to Islam. I'm also a democratic communist, but that isn't a religion.
    Up the workers!
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    TIASSA-
    Crowley was an intelligent person, interesting writer, and was also somewhat pathetic. His idea of the law is just a reversion to pure animal nature, which is unreasonable for a society like ours, and it doesn't even fit with what I perceive your political views would insist upon, i.e. civil rights.
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    Crowley was a conduit, a gateway, whatever. He delivered the tools, and despite his apparent opinion of himself, he does not hold any exclusive claim to the methods of their utilization.

    See Aceldama: A Place To Bury Strangers In (.pdf link).

    I am unworthy. In the House of Pain
    There are ten thousand shrines. Each one enfolds
    A lesser, inner, more divine, that holds
    A sin less palpable and less profane.
    The inmost is the home of God. He moulds
    Infinity,
    The great within the small, one stainless unity.

    I dare not to the greater sins aspire;
    I might--so gross am I--take pleasure in
    These filthy holocausts, that burn to sin
    A damned incense in the hellish fire
    Of human lust--earth's joys no heaven may win,
    Pain holds the prize
    In blood-stained hands; Love laughs, with anguish in
    His eyes.
    And compare the former stanza with Perdurabo's Sixth Lie, "Caviar".
    "A red rose absorbs all colours but red; red is therefore the one colour that it is not." (Perdurabo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericwernli
    hey, coolskill,
    Why would you be prejudiced against people who seek the truth through evidence?
    I never said that. Get a fucking clue or go misquote somebody else. Retard.
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    Hey Cool skill

    I'm a christian Antiatheistite.

    Antisemite, according to the dictionary, is one who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.

    I'm the same, but in terms of atheists not jews.
    What do you think this means. You are prejudiced against athiest or are you just retarded and don't know what you are saying? I got a clue fool.
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  17. #16 How can you be a Christian but might convert to Islam??? 
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    Communist Hamster: I'm christian, but might covert to Islam. I'm also a democratic communist, but that isn't a religion.
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    M*W: Please explain to us why you claim to be a Christian "but might convert to Islam?" I am not questioning your motives or your decision, but I am curious about your ambiguity/interest between Christianity and Islam. I really do understand your wanting to leave Christianity, but I sense that you are still holding onto it.
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    In the form for religion, I check the "None" box. I was sort of Christian growing up. Luckily, I had parents that let me come to my own conclusion. Not that going to church is probably all bad. Some friends accused me of being the author of the following excerpt from The Onion. If only I were that creative.

    COLUMBUS, OH—The gloriously jubilant gospel singing that pours forth each Sunday from Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church is enough to make local resident Doug Kamin wish he believed in all that God bullshit.

    Kamin, who lives two blocks from Bethel AME Church, passes the church most Sundays en route to his local Starbucks. Though he has rejected the existence of God ever since discovering Marx and Nietzsche in the 10th grade, Kamin admitted that the exuberant singing of the church choir often produces in him a feeling of longing.

    "It must be so life-affirming to be in there, connecting with fellow human beings and celebrating your faith while making that joyful noise," said Kamin, a doctoral candidate in political science at Ohio State University. "I still say it's a big, delusional fairy tale, this whole religion thing, but what's the harm in believing in a 2,000-year-old carpenter and some 'holy ghost' if it makes you happy?"

    Kamin first discovered Bethel AME Church in May 2000, shortly after moving to the neighborhood. Long accustomed to dismissing all forms of Christian ceremony and worship as "hysterical" and "cult-like," Kamin overheard a rendition of "The Old Ship Of Zion" that led him to amend his opinion.

    "I can't remember the words, but the soloist sang something like 'Join me on the old Ship of Zion, and you'll find peace in the Lord,'" Kamin said. "The song probably went back to the slave days. Anyway, it stopped me dead in my tracks. I just stood in front of the church and let the music surround me. For that moment, I totally forgot what an artificial construct God is."

    Kamin said the gospel hymns he heard that first day reverberated in his head for hours.


    "I found myself humming 'Mary Don't You Weep' and 'Move On Up A Little Higher' and all these other songs," Kamin said. "It made me think how amazing it is that a historically oppressed people can continue to persevere and derive strength from its music and its faith. I was very moved."

    Added Kamin: "From a purely sociological and historical viewpoint, that is. Not spiritually."

    Despite his attraction to the Bethel AME Church, Kamin still can't bring himself to believe in the existence of a supreme being.

    "There's simply too much evolutionary and cosmological evidence against it," Kamin said. "No offense to anybody, but I just can't buy into the parting of the Red Sea and the Immaculate Conception and all those other Biblical tall tales any more than I can The Odyssey."

    Kamin said he would love to experience a Bethel service, but expressed doubt that he would be welcome there.

    "I bet they can smell an atheist a mile away," Kamin said. "I shouldn't taint their experience with my cold rationalism and irrefutable logic. And the fact that I'm white probably wouldn't help matters, either."

    Kamin need not worry, said Rev. Lawrence Stovall, Bethel's senior pastor.

    "People of all colors and creeds are welcome in the house of the Lord, even non-believers like Doug," Stovall said. "Perhaps our abiding faith in Jesus and love for our fellow man will, at the very least, inspire him to quit living in his head all the time."
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    I'm not religious. Religions are made up for a variety of reasons, but none of them has ever been so successful as science when it comes to reveal the nature of the universe. I never could be religious. I do not believe there is such a thing as the supernatural. I find the concepts of gods, souls and ghosts to be anthropocentric and ridiculous.
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    I have a hard time not comparing religion to voodoo and witch trials. We always look back and laugh at the rediculous beliefs of our ancestors. I wonder what we will say in a 1000 years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey
    Okie dokie
    To me it is very confusing when someone claims to be a Buddhist. When the Buddha first became famous, his "path" or world-outlook and way of thinking was so advanced, so atheistic and scientific that he was way ahead of this time. He started a secular movement in India which turned against the old, cast encrused faith of the Yogi gurus and brought an age of enlightenment. His followers were not monks but simply the enlightened of the age.

    However, like here, religious reaction set in and the whole movement had to adapt to survive. Before you know it, his followers were writing scriptures about the great Buddhist saints who had held of going to Nirvana in order to help others achieve it. They were compiling huge tomes filled with all the things that Buddha was supposed to have done and said. It had become corrupted just as science is now being corrupted in the West by religious reaction, by Creationism and intelligent design. The whole system had become a mere denomination of Hinduism.

    And Buddhists do pray to Buddha. I personally had a Buddhist suggest to me that I present my problems to Buddha and he would help me! I was in the Temple of the Jade Buddha in Thialand and she was very sinsere and a great host. I really had no problems to give him, however!

    One think about its present connection to Hinduism is that Hinduism is also a premillenialism faith. That is, it also believes in the End Times. (it is supposed to come every so many centuries!) So, in a world of religious reaction, all the major old faiths are looking forward to the end of the world. In one loaded with atomic weapons and plague pathogens, it is not encouraging to believe such a world catastropy would be followed by love and peace! I just cannot imagine the "born again" of any of the faiths doing much to prevent it when they think it will be followed by "God's Kindom!"

    more on the subject is at http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com

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    I do not follow any Religion, but I do believe that something/one kick started evolution off..... .
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    I am a Catholic, but I am increasing become Agnostic.
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    I don't believe in anything but myself therefore I have no religon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiritual
    I do not follow any Religion, but I do believe that something/one kick started evolution off..... .
    I just think that at one point, evolution was inevitable. Life arose because it could, and even if we don't understand it completely, I would attribute it all to the forces of nature.
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    To believe in a supernatural force that can't be seen or heard or proven to exist would seem to me that people who do believe in that sort of thing must be delusional and have mental heath problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler
    To believe in a supernatural force that can't be seen or heard or proven to exist would seem to me that people who do believe in that sort of thing must be delusional and have mental heath problems.

    Yes.

    And niggers are inferiour.
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    Negros are not inferior to anyone. Just because you may have been better educated than someone else you should understand why this is so. If you are not a highly educated person then you should go back to school and learn more so that you won't look so stupid saying such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesocyclone
    http://www.lycianwicca.org/
    I see you classify yourself as wiccan/pagan.

    Although I am an atheist, I still consider myself a pagan too.
    Atheistic/Wiccan/Pagan.

    While I don't believe in dieties,astrology,Tarot cards or anything like that
    (I am a hard core skeptic chic)
    I still think some religions have some aesthetic value and see nothing wrong with them. I like Buddhism,Wicca,Druidism, etc...
    Although I don't formally practice any of them per say.

    Now christianity and Islamic faiths are just too pedantic for me.... :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genome72
    Now christianity and Islamic faiths are just too pedantic for me.... :wink:
    LOL! Yeah, and ditto, that's probably saying the least of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler
    Negros are not inferior to anyone. Just because you may have been better educated than someone else you should understand why this is so. If you are not a highly educated person then you should go back to school and learn more so that you won't look so stupid saying such things.
    Thank you for proving my point, you imbecile.

    Ask yourself... Why is the contradiction of condemning a group and defending another appropriate? They both rely on the same forms and stereotypes.
    The compositions which form these groups and their cores, beliefs are fully, externally definable.

    All ready defined, by you.

    You said christians have severe health problems because they believe in something that can not be proven.
    It's cool - and niggers are inferiour.

    Savvy?
    What's the difference?

    "But but... you are born black/white, it has nothing to do with beliefs!!"

    No? Circumcisions and communal bannings come pretty close.

    It is not what you are concretely, it is what you represent.
    You represent the negro race, or condone it. Or don't

    You veiled racist you, hating people for their convictions.. pfft.
    You want them to change.
    Who the fuck wants people to change before they can be acceptable?

    So piss off with this teeny weeny "begone believers!" dribble. You people, who believe in equality - yet play the petty atheist wars -, are mentally retarded.

    "are mentally retarded"

    ooops..

    Hmm, I just wanted to disagree. I don't really care.

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    Although I am an atheist, I still consider myself a pagan too.
    I want to taste your periods

    sluuuuuuuurp..
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    You should use a bit more euphemisms, Perfect. I find your vulgarity a bit uncanny. Does it make you feel better to condescend an ethnical group? Are you a fascist or do you need a physiatrist? Or am I totally reading you wrong?
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    answer to the original post: I'm an atheist/secular humanist.

    and a point for perfect many blacks are atheist, as are many theist.
    many blacks are crippled, as are many whites.
    black, white, ablebody, not ablebody, we are all different,

    some people are lunatics, and some are not, and unfortunately society defines lunacy as Insanity, especially insanity relieved intermittently by periods of clear-mindedness, which would make a person appear normal.
    however Insanity is defined as Extreme foolishness; folly, Something that is extremely foolish.
    so by that you can understand why many atheist can only see the religious as mentally ill, because they, believe something without proof, just on faith alone.
    which is the same as believing in pretty pink polka dotted blue fairies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect



    I want to taste your periods

    sluuuuuuuurp..
    Were you dropped on your head as a child? More than once? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Communist Hamster
    I'm christian, but might covert to Islam. I'm also a democratic communist, but that isn't a religion.

    out of the fringing pan into the fire
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    I don't have a religion. Philosophically I'm both atheist and agnostic.
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    well im either atheist or zeloist, wich would mean i consider myself as a superior bieng and should be worshiped as a god, so you can start converting im a full blood atheist
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

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    I'm not sure but, I think you meant pure blood.
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    well, if thats how it is in english then yes, we say full blood directly translated in sweden
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

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    Shall I say that my religion is Christianity and make myself a target for all the contempt and resentment for the stupity and ill-behavior of other Christians? Therefore, forgive me for my long-winded precision in answering this question.

    In another thread I recently identified myself as a "minimalist anti-Gnostic born-again Christian existentialist and orthodox open theist, who upholds a kind of theistic evolution, fighting for harmony between science and religion." Here I shall explain what all of this means.

    The keyword is of course Christian. I uphold the Bible and the Nicean creed, however as a minimalist there is a lot of the Bible and the Nicean creed that is beyond my knowledge and understanding and I do not pretend otherwise. When speaking my opinion and explaining my ideas I stick to what I do understand. I take the Bible seriously and classify it as similar to my own memory, as something I always take seriously, would never dismiss or discard, but as requiring some discernment in parts like in the first few chapters of Genesis with its obviously symbolic and mythic elements. But there are other parts of the Bible and the creed about which I must simply plead ignorance.

    The born again qualifier means that I see a personal relationship with the Son of God as what being Christian is all about. The anti-Gnostic qualifier means that I adhere to a particularly extreme version of the Christian idea that there is no path to God. Not only do works not avail you, but knowledge, understanding, beliefs and professions are equally useless. God is beyond our abillity to appease, control, define, understand, manipulate, or hold to any contract or promise. Salvation (reunion with God), in that personal relationship with Christ I talked about before comes as a gift of grace from God by His intervention. However, in accordance with the ideas of Christian existentialism, God does however require, after He makes it possible by His intervention, your exercise of free will to accept this gift of grace.

    I reject all five points of Calvinism (for subtle reasons in some cases) but keep much of the Calvinist and Augustinian ideas of the utter depravity of man. However, I must technically reject the first point of total depravity, for it is the separation from God that distinguishes man's fall from grace, not a complete lack of any capacity for goodness from birth. It is only man's seperation from God which makes sin inevitable and it is sin (by man's own free will and choice) which eventually makes man incapable of goodness. The human being is therefore born in innocence yet doomed to self-destructive behavior without the grace and guidance of God. I reject the second point of unconditional election and fourth point of irresistable grace, because no gift of God is unconditional or irresistable in the sense that an exercise of free will to accept the gift is always required (because that is God's will). I emphatically reject the third point of Calvinism of limited atonement, for God loves all mankind without reservation and so He gave his life on the cross to save them all, not any selected few. Finally I reluctantly reject the fifth point of Calvinism of eternal security (that salvation cannot be lost), because although it seems logical, it is presumptive and usurps the judgement of God. Furthermore, the only kind of assurance I find acceptable is the assurance of the love and goodness of God and certainly not of any man's claim to be saved.

    My commitment to the idea of free will and rejection of Calvinism puts me rather close to the position of open theism in the rejection of meticulous sovereignty (control of eveything) and absolute foreknowledge. So I accent to an orthodox version of open theism that God must, at least, choose not to know what we will do, preserving the uncertain state of our future choices as possibilities only. I uphold the affirmations that God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, but I do not think that these define him and I think that problems with logical consistency and being subject to God's will means that caution must be exercised in understanding what they mean. I emphatically agree with the open theist rejection of the idea of God as impassible (without feeling). I stand firmly on the fence however with regards to the rejection of the idea that God is immutable and timeless, for I assert that God exists both within time where He can exhibit change (including changing His mind) and outside of time where He is changeless. Existing outside of time only means that He is not bound within it, it does not mean the future exists in a determined state.

    I am a theistic evolutionist (or evolutionary creationist) because I believe that living things can only be created in a participatory process like those of the farmer raising crops and the teacher educating students, which from an objective scientific point of view is described as evolution. Living things cannot be designed. Thus the creation of living things is the result of a partnership between God and the living things themselves which participate in the process of their own creation, and thus they are responsible for what they are and are not simply what God made them to be.

    I vigorously defend the value and methodology of both science and religion. I uphold science as most efficatious for explaining the objectively observable and measurable aspects of the world around us and I uphold religion as valid and valuable in helping people to understand and cope with the experience of human existence.
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    I'm an atheist.
    Besides, I've seen some people have added something about their political views etc, so I'll also say I'm a world citizen.
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    I'm an atheist.
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    mE TOO, the more I hear about you the more I like.
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    Belive in me, im the future ruler of this planet, the future god of this universe
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

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    Belive in me, im the future ruler of this planet, the future god of this universe
    If you want to taken seriously, you really have to start capitalizing the g in god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaplanck.
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    I'm an atheist.
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    mE TOO, the more I hear about you the more I like.
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    atheist/occultist? Or would it be agnostic/occultist? Not sure, but since I have a fairly good idea against creationism, yet occultist views tend to provide gods/spirits (which I avoid, however), so that can't make me ATHEIST, unless atheist is a definition of one who would not find proof of creationism? Bah...but yeah, in short, atheist/occultist/whatever. XP
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    Belive in me, im the future ruler of this planet, the future god of this universe
    If you want to taken seriously, you really have to start capitalizing the g in god.
    NEVER, not until im declared god over everything atleast
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
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    Belive in me, im the future ruler of this planet, the future god of this universe
    If you want to taken seriously, you really have to start capitalizing the g in god.
    NEVER, not until im declared god over everything atleast
    Alright, but I hope at least you are documenting this process so that you can publish your results and we can know for all time whether or not you should have capitalized the g to begin with.
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    My God is the universe - no books - no furry angels, just time space matter, energy, and history. These are what created me. The local rep of my God is Sol whom I worship for two weeks every year. The name of my religion is Allness.
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    i dont really think about it but a little of every is good in a way. Christianity good, Buddha good, guess Jedi good too ha. As long as you don't get carried away anything not too out of the ordinary is ok with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    My God is the universe - no books - no furry angels, just time space matter, energy, and history. These are what created me. The local rep of my God is Sol whom I worship for two weeks every year. The name of my religion is Allness.
    If I believe in god, it would be in your god. Equating god = universe make sense for me.
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    Science is surely...my first religion.
    The second is christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    I have the same religion as every newborn baby in this world.
    Ancestor worship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    I have the same religion as every newborn baby in this world.
    Ancestor worship?
    My religious data banks are empty and I was born with a religion blocker already installed in my hard drive. I feel blessed.
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    It was in my first operating system but I seem to have deleted it to make way for something more useful :wink:
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    No, see, that's too much of an OBVIOUS contradiction of free will. So of course that can't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    The luck of being born with virus protection has also helped me avoid the religion bug. I'd recommend a virus scan for billions of people and a steady diet of updates. And to think I was born on Good Friday.

    yeah, my antivirus software is updated everytime i switch on the news
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    The luck of being born with virus protection has also helped me avoid the religion bug. I'd recommend a virus scan for billions of people and a steady diet of updates. And to think I was born on Good Friday.

    yeah, my antivirus software is updated everytime i switch on the news
    The question of course is whether such antivirus software, which just happened to be there rather than one designed by qualified professionals, is whether it can properly distinguish between viruses (and other types of malicious software) and the legitimate software required for full function and taking advantage of all of the hardware's capabilities.

    I mean when I buy a new computer I usually have to clear out a lot of junk including the worthless Norton & McAffee crap to put in security programs that really protect it without degrading performance and interfering with operation of the computer to its fullest capacity.

    It is unwise to buy into big names that just look good on the face of it without doing some serious investigation, for they often make you pay for something that is worth less than what you can get for free. There is simply no avoiding the responsibility we have in making the right choices about what software to run on our systems in order to get it to do exactly what we want it to do.

    (Big names would include all the major religions plus atheism and even science, all of which can be a liability without fully understanding their purpose, limitations and ideosyncracies)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
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    The luck of being born with virus protection has also helped me avoid the religion bug. I'd recommend a virus scan for billions of people and a steady diet of updates. And to think I was born on Good Friday.

    yeah, my antivirus software is updated everytime i switch on the news
    The question of course is whether such antivirus software, which just happened to be there rather than one designed by qualified professionals, is whether it can properly distinguish between viruses (and other hostile types of software) and the legitimate software required for full function and taking advantage of all of the hardware's capabilities.

    I mean when I buy a new computer I usually have to clear out a lot of junk including the worthless Norton & McAffee crap to put in security programs that really protect it without degrading performance and interfering with operation of the computer to its fullest capacity.

    It is unwise to buy into big names that just look good on the face of it without doing some serious investigation, for they often make you pay for something that is worth less than what you can get for free. There is simply no avoiding the responsibility we have in making the right choices about what software to run on our systems in order to get it to do exactly what we want it to do.

    (Big names would include all the major religions plus atheism and even science, all of which can be a liability without fully understanding their purpose, limitations and ideosyncracies)
    mine seems to be working very well, and keeping everything running smoothley and happily without dragging the system down.

    No mines not an aftermarket system of virus software(dont need it), mines just running with the default that comes with all new systems and has never failed since the start of existence :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    mine seems to be working very well, and keeping everything running smoothley and happily without dragging the system down.

    No mines not an aftermarket system of virus software(dont need it), mines just running with the default that comes with all new systems and has never failed since the start of existence :wink:
    Well of course only you can say whether your system is doing what you want it to do, to your satisfaction. After all, people use their systems for so many different purposes that it makes the setup that people have almost infinite in variety, giving even their computers an unpredictable character that is almost lifelike.

    So we make our own choices and only we can judge the result. Lets not let our pride in our own system and its accomplishments blind us to the fact that our little system would not be useful to or appreciated by everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
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    mine seems to be working very well, and keeping everything running smoothley and happily without dragging the system down.

    No mines not an aftermarket system of virus software(dont need it), mines just running with the default that comes with all new systems and has never failed since the start of existence :wink:
    Well of course only you can say whether your system is doing what you want it to do, to your satisfaction. After all, people use their systems for so many different purposes that it makes the setup that people have almost infinite in variety, giving even their computers an unpredictable character that is almost lifelike.

    So we make our own choices and only we can judge the result. Lets not let our pride in our own system and its accomplishments blind us to the fact that our little system would not be useful to or appreciated by everyone.

    yeah but my system is factory default :wink:
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    yeah but my system is factory default :wink:
    So you were made in a factory. I thought there was something strange about you.
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    yeah but my system is factory default :wink:
    So you were made in a factory. I thought there was something strange about you.

    yeah, women are the only workers there, and they spend the days dividing cells and feed nutrients and oxygen. not a mass production place though. usually one off bespoke products and very time consuming :wink:
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    yeah but my system is factory default :wink:
    So you were made in a factory. I thought there was something strange about you.

    yeah, women are the only workers there, and they spend the days dividing cells and feed nutrients and oxygen. not a mass production place though. usually one off bespoke products and very time consuming :wink:
    Don't forget that in the meantime they're trying to kill off the men that got them jobs there. 8)
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