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  1. #1 Questions for william 
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    As a jehovahs witness we believe in the bible as gods word.

    I have pointed this out at all times. In debates we try to offer opinions, NOT make up arguements others have not made. This is called strawmanning as in a strawman arguement.

    If you want to talk maturely them pm me and we can chat on msn. But please refrain from taking foum debates to a personal level, im afraid shows you in a bad light.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    As a jehovahs witness we believe in the bible as gods word.

    I have pointed this out at all times. In debates we try to offer opinions, NOT make up arguements others have not made. This is called strawmanning as in a strawman arguement.

    If you want to talk maturely them pm me and we can chat on msn. But please refrain from taking foum debates to a personal level, im afraid shows you in a bad light.
    And where is your question...?

    I thought my questions were something you'd enjoy answering. I've been here for around 7 months - the people that frequent this forum and are familiar with me know that my thread for you wasn't meant as anything personal. Instead, what I did was give you a door to knock on.

    This is not the first time I have made such a thread. I addressed a question to a former member called billco in the history section a while ago.

    My thread entitled 'Questions for Truth1010' surely doesn't show me in a bad light. But this thread of retaliation created by you most likely reflects negatively on you....

    You should think about that.


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    The forums are for everyone to debate, therefore they should never be aimed at one person.

    Im afraid this does put you in a bad light. I post on most threads that interest me and have offered you the chance to pm me with any questions.

    This would be enough for most forum suers but you clearly have a problem with the normal use of forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    The forums are for everyone to debate, therefore they should never be aimed at one person.

    Im afraid this does put you in a bad light. I post on most threads that interest me and have offered you the chance to pm me with any questions.

    This would be enough for most forum suers but you clearly have a problem with the normal use of forums.
    Here is another one I created addressed to our resident Muslim;

    http://www.thescienceforum.com/Messa...w...-4356t.php

    He took advantage of that opportunity. Instead of a PM, here everyone can benefit from the discussion. You're a hypocrite. You say you want to 'witness' to everyone and in the same breath you would rather PM in private.

    You have just about ran the gauntlet of my patience... I'm starting to think much less of you.
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    William you are in danger of becoming obsessed. Its only a forum and a debate.

    You have taken a debate to a personal level and it has shown you in a poor light.

    You started the thread by saying something i had not said. This is called a lie. Its important to debating in forums that all users avoid doing this. I dont like people who use this tactic and few people do william.

    You have used up as much of my time as im going to let you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    William you are in danger of becoming obsessed. Its only a forum and a debate.

    You have taken a debate to a personal level and it has shown you in a poor light.

    You started the thread by saying something i had not said. This is called a lie. Its important to debating in forums that all users avoid doing this. I dont like people who use this tactic and few people do william.

    You have used up as much of my time as im going to let you.
    Could you have simply said in that thread that you didn't agree with the questions in the first place?

    Is it still a lie when I honestly thought the questions were what you believed?
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    William wrote...

    Is it still a lie when I honestly thought the questions were what you believed?
    Then william wrote...

    Truth, the part in red, is not saying that the JWs don't believe that the Bible is the ultimate source of truth... but how would you answer these questions if the person asking them was a Muslim or atheist for instance.
    Contradicting yourself and again showing you in a very poor light.


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    When first we practice to deceive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    William wrote...

    Is it still a lie when I honestly thought the questions were what you believed?
    Then william wrote...

    Truth, the part in red, is not saying that the JWs don't believe that the Bible is the ultimate source of truth... but how would you answer these questions if the person asking them was a Muslim or atheist for instance.
    Contradicting yourself and again showing you in a very poor light.


    Oh! what a tangled web we weave
    When first we practice to deceive!
    Are you able to read!?!

    I did not say that the JWs don't believe the Bible! I was asking how you would answer those questions, like how do we know that Jesus is the son of God, if you were talking to an atheist or a Muslim, both of which don't take the Bible as the truth. Are you not capable of understanding this? Why can't you understand this?

    Actually, let's drop it. After observing your acumen, I wouldn't value your answers anyway....
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    Truth you kind of come across really sarcastic and passive especially with the insults. what do your insults accomplish? nothing. what do they do? try to bring people down. this only puts you in a bad light, not william. at least to me. maybe to you they make yourself think you are winning some battle. the only battle you doing is yourself cause william just trying to help. hope you can see that now.
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    Truth, if you read the original post by william again, carefully, I think you'll see the confusion as to why you've taken offense.

    He asked a question about convincing someone that doesn't believe the bible that I too would like to know the answer to?

    Your bickering on here certainly portrays you in a bad light, I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with it.
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    Thank you very much SealOtter and ItsAllRelative.

    Truth1010, no offense, but I don't think you understand what's written very well. I've seen evidence for this in other posts of yours addressed to other people.

    If you have any doubt as to what's being said, you might want to ask for clarification first instead of reacting too quickly.

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    This is the statement that william made...

    for someone that doesn't believe that the Bible is the ultimate source of truth
    In all my posts ive used the bible as gods word, and been opposed for this. So to make a statement like this in a sarcastic way, thats how i read it, is not the way to use a forum.

    Im not really sure what sealotter or relative were reffering to, but for you william you have taken things way too personally and need to accept that people will not always agree with your opinions.

    To goad an arguement and lie about people isnt the right way to go about it. Now ive said move on so please do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    This is the statement that william made...

    for someone that doesn't believe that the Bible is the ultimate source of truth
    In all my posts ive used the bible as gods word, and been opposed for this. So to make a statement like this in a sarcastic way, thats how i read it, is not the way to use a forum.

    Im not really sure what sealotter or relative were reffering to, but for you william you have taken things way too personally and need to accept that people will not always agree with your opinions.

    To goad an arguement and lie about people isnt the right way to go about it. Now ive said move on so please do so.
    Truth, what I was asking is how you would explain things to someone who didn't believe the Bible. I did not mean it to be taken that you didn't believe the Bible.

    Here slowboy, I'll restate the original question so your pea-brain can understand (hopefully...).

    Imagine you are talking to a Muslim. That Muslim doesn't believe the Bible - he believes the Koran. You, being a person that does believe in the Bible, are talking with this Muslim. What would you say to him to convince him that Jesus is the son of God?

    Can't you understand that I never meant you to take it as me saying that you don't believe the Bible? Are you that dumb?

    As I said before, I don't care anymore about your answers to any questions. If I have to explain something this simple to you, over and over and over... and you STILL don't/can't get it, then you simply are not a thinking man and your opinions aren't worth shit.

    Here, ONE LAST TIME...
    what I wrote, the thing you quoted above and I'll requote here;
    for someone that doesn't believe that the Bible is the ultimate source of truth
    that 'someone' IS NOT YOU!!! IT'S THE PERSON YOU WOULD BE TALKING TO, SUCH AS AN ATHEIST OR MUSLIM ETC.!!!

    Truth, I've done everything I can imagine to explain to you why you misunderstood. I type in all-caps, use colors and bold-type. SealOtter and ItsAllRelative tried to explain to you why you misunderstood. Yet all our efforts are to no avail. Face it Truth, you are a dim-wit.
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    Dimwit, dumb, slowboy, pea brain. William you are not putting yourself in a mature light by using these insults are you?

    Please move on, you are not going to take my time by making petty insults at me, so please i ask again move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1010
    Dimwit, dumb, slowboy, pea brain. William you are not putting yourself in a mature light by using these insults are you?

    Please move on, you are not going to take my time by making petty insults at me, so please i ask again move on.
    Truth, I normally don't resort to such actions. But it seems you are incapable of understanding anything else....

    Do you at least now realize the meaning of my original question, or are you still adamant to stick with your error of interpretation of what I said?

    I'll bet anything that if you indeed have finally figured out that I never said that you didn't believe in the Bible, you still won't fess up to it. And I'd bet my soul that you'll never apologize. Seriously, are you the best that the JWs could come up with as a spokesperson?

    You demonstrate severe brainwashing and an unrelenting lack of comprehension.

    (I know... I know... I shouldn't use such big words with you....)
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    Actually, william, try Megabrains adopted tactic. Throw the poo at a wall so it bounces a few times before it hits him. More civil that way. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    Actually, william, try Megabrains adopted tactic. Throw the poo at a wall so it bounces a few times before it hits him. More civil that way. :P
    Indeed.
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