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    what do you owe your god to pray endlessly and devout your entire life to his/her worship. Why would you thank someone for doing something you never asked for. And no, im not talking along the same lines as holding a door for a stranger. This is competely different. I just wonder why some one would do that. I did for most of my life. Then i quit living in fear. I quit thanking someone i have never met for things i did my self. Things that have no influence by "divine intervention" or the act of god.


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    what do you owe your god to pray endlessly and devout your entire life to his/her worship.
    He is great. I love him. I respect him. He is an awesome role model.

    Why would you thank someone for doing something you never asked for.
    sometimes people don't know how to ask for support.

    Then i quit living in fear.
    oh you don't have to get rid of religion to do that

    sorry you lived in fear thats not good...


    whatever works for you.


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    no, i lived in fear of my god. i lived in fear of etnernal damnation for fibbing here and there. and not being as nice of a guy when i should have. and support? what support? why would i need support?
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    i dont know, maybe you dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Pipin
    what do you owe your god to pray endlessly and devout your entire life to his/her worship. Why would you thank someone for doing something you never asked for. And no, im not talking along the same lines as holding a door for a stranger. This is competely different. I just wonder why some one would do that. I did for most of my life. Then i quit living in fear. I quit thanking someone i have never met for things i did my self. Things that have no influence by "divine intervention" or the act of god.
    Congratulations. Your have graduated from immature religion based on believing what you are told by others. Welcome to the world of those seeking and determining the truth for themselves.

    I do not believe in a God who needs, demands or wants worship. People thank others for doing things not asked for all the time. People also curse others for doing things not asked for. It is simply a matter of whether you appreciate what was done or not. And no it is not like holding a door for a stranger. It is more like your parents giving you life. Depending on whether you appreciate life you may thank them or curse them. It is certainly a good thing to quit living in fear. Nor does it make sense to thank someone else for doing things which you did for yourself without any help from anyone.

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    Your talking as if you'd rather have not existed, well God gave us the ability to take our own lives, and if you dont wish to die, then why not thank him for living and what you have around you (people and place)?

    You dont have to completely devote your life to God if you dont wish to (it is your choice), and you dont need to fear if there is TRUE belief. Just following along with everyone else is the wrong thing to do, but straying too far is most definately the wrong idea.

    Worship God in your own way until you have understood your religion and life enough to contribute more of your life to it.

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    It seems to make some people happy when they worship, and if they do it in a church, then they are not out robbing banks, or blowing people up. Religion oviously provides a great deal of comfort for many people, whereas others have other things to do with the time. Religion gets people together and talking, it gives them something in common so whether or not there is a god it does have some benefits. Believing or otherwise in a god or gods is simply a choice for each of us, whether to believe or not is still a freedom, one of the few we seem to have these days.
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    If I worship God for giving me this life then it suggests that God does not know everything. Its like the commandments, if he knew we would all be good little devotees then there would no need for the 10. The fact is He either doesn't know everything or He knows but plays along for whatever reason a deity may have.

    The most puzzling thing for me is why some people born with defects, paralysis, cancer and many other life threatening physicalities worship a deity. Is it an acceptance of your lot in life to appease a deity in order to ensure a better afterlife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos

    The most puzzling thing for me is why some people born with defects, paralysis, cancer and many other life threatening physicalities worship a deity. Is it an acceptance of your lot in life to appease a deity in order to ensure a better afterlife?

    you look at people with defects, paralysis, and cancer and think pity, sorry, bad. God looks at them and think love, proud, respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos

    The most puzzling thing for me is why some people born with defects, paralysis, cancer and many other life threatening physicalities worship a deity. Is it an acceptance of your lot in life to appease a deity in order to ensure a better afterlife?

    you look at people with defects, paralysis, and cancer and think pity, sorry, bad. God looks at them and think love, proud, respect.
    So no wonder they would rather believe in God than in people!
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    but then again God teaches to believe in people as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter

    you look at people with defects, paralysis, and cancer and think pity, sorry, bad. God looks at them and think love, proud, respect.
    Don't think we can ever know what a god is thinking. You could ask what He was thinking when he put lives into broken and diseased bodies. However, I don't believe God pities, has pride in or respects them one iota. If God exists then He put them there for a reason.

    Whatever those poor unfortunates think about God, you can probably rest assured that some of them believe He doesn't love them. The only hope some may have is that there is a god who intentionally put them here with the afflictions in mind. At least that way they can feel some connection or love from the creator. By worshipping god they hope to gain favor when they pass on, anything is better than the hand they were dealt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagoman
    Your talking as if you'd rather have not existed, well God gave us the ability to take our own lives, and if you dont wish to die, then why not thank him for living and what you have around you (people and place)?

    You dont have to completely devote your life to God if you dont wish to (it is your choice), and you dont need to fear if there is TRUE belief. Just following along with everyone else is the wrong thing to do, but straying too far is most definately the wrong idea.

    Worship God in your own way until you have understood your religion and life enough to contribute more of your life to it.

    BTW I'm muslim
    no, i dont wish to die. By all means i love life. but if you cant make the choice to be conscience, if you dont even exist in the beggining, then why do you thank him. why not worship your parents for doing the dirty deed to bring you into this world. why not worship yourgrandparents for giving you the slightest opportunity to even be concieved.

    I was afraid to incur the wrath of god. thats how i precieved the bible and i worshiped not because i thought god was a great, divine merciful being, but a strict merciless being who had rules we all had to abide by. rules that had an overly sever consequence, eternal damnation to the fiery pit of hell!? no thanks. i dont see how any deity could impose such a harsh punishment for his beautiful mortal children with there individuality and immoral thoughts. if you want us to follow the rules, dont allow us to cheat.
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    no, i dont wish to die. By all means i love life. but if you cant make the choice to be conscience, if you dont even exist in the beggining, then why do you thank him. why not worship your parents for doing the dirty deed to bring you into this world. why not worship yourgrandparents for giving you the slightest opportunity to even be concieved.

    I was afraid to incur the wrath of god. thats how i precieved the bible and i worshiped not because i thought god was a great, divine merciful being, but a strict merciless being who had rules we all had to abide by. rules that had an overly sever consequence, eternal damnation to the fiery pit of hell!? no thanks. i dont see how any deity could impose such a harsh punishment for his beautiful mortal children with there individuality and immoral thoughts. if you want us to follow the rules, dont allow us to cheat.
    I don't know who religiously raised you, but you seem to have gotten a bad bite of the apple. God isn't a merciless tyrant. His love and forgiveness are eternal, it's practically impossible to go to hell. Hitler could be in heaven, if he asked God for forgiveness and actually wanted it. God doesn't like the little bad things we do, or the big bad things we do, but he'll always forgive us.

    Now this isn't exact for all religions, but the general idea is universal.

    So why do people worship? it depends on the person, some do it because they are told to, some do it for the same reasons you had - fear. Some people believe they owe God for bringing the universe into existance. Some people just feel better being part of something greater than themselves. It's comforting to know that no matter what, there is someone who will love you and be there for you.

    You might look at it as a life of ignorance. But if it makes someone happy and comfortable, then maybe non-believers are the ones in ignorance. Ignorance of how to be happy.

    Holy smokes, I must sound like a bible-thumper or something.. yikes. i'm gonna go puke now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draculogenes
    no, i dont wish to die. By all means i love life. but if you cant make the choice to be conscience, if you dont even exist in the beggining, then why do you thank him. why not worship your parents for doing the dirty deed to bring you into this world. why not worship yourgrandparents for giving you the slightest opportunity to even be concieved.

    I was afraid to incur the wrath of god. thats how i precieved the bible and i worshiped not because i thought god was a great, divine merciful being, but a strict merciless being who had rules we all had to abide by. rules that had an overly sever consequence, eternal damnation to the fiery pit of hell!? no thanks. i dont see how any deity could impose such a harsh punishment for his beautiful mortal children with there individuality and immoral thoughts. if you want us to follow the rules, dont allow us to cheat.
    I don't know who religiously raised you, but you seem to have gotten a bad bite of the apple. God isn't a merciless tyrant. His love and forgiveness are eternal, it's practically impossible to go to hell. Hitler could be in heaven, if he asked God for forgiveness and actually wanted it. God doesn't like the little bad things we do, or the big bad things we do, but he'll always forgive us.

    Now this isn't exact for all religions, but the general idea is universal.

    So why do people worship? it depends on the person, some do it because they are told to, some do it for the same reasons you had - fear. Some people believe they owe God for bringing the universe into existance. Some people just feel better being part of something greater than themselves. It's comforting to know that no matter what, there is someone who will love you and be there for you.

    You might look at it as a life of ignorance. But if it makes someone happy and comfortable, then maybe non-believers are the ones in ignorance. Ignorance of how to be happy.

    Holy smokes, I must sound like a bible-thumper or something.. yikes. i'm gonna go puke now...
    no, you sound good. good job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draculogenes
    no, i dont wish to die. By all means i love life. but if you cant make the choice to be conscience, if you dont even exist in the beggining, then why do you thank him. why not worship your parents for doing the dirty deed to bring you into this world. why not worship yourgrandparents for giving you the slightest opportunity to even be concieved.

    I was afraid to incur the wrath of god. thats how i precieved the bible and i worshiped not because i thought god was a great, divine merciful being, but a strict merciless being who had rules we all had to abide by. rules that had an overly sever consequence, eternal damnation to the fiery pit of hell!? no thanks. i dont see how any deity could impose such a harsh punishment for his beautiful mortal children with there individuality and immoral thoughts. if you want us to follow the rules, dont allow us to cheat.
    I don't know who religiously raised you, but you seem to have gotten a bad bite of the apple. God isn't a merciless tyrant. His love and forgiveness are eternal, it's practically impossible to go to hell. Hitler could be in heaven, if he asked God for forgiveness and actually wanted it. God doesn't like the little bad things we do, or the big bad things we do, but he'll always forgive us.

    Now this isn't exact for all religions, but the general idea is universal.

    So why do people worship? it depends on the person, some do it because they are told to, some do it for the same reasons you had - fear. Some people believe they owe God for bringing the universe into existance. Some people just feel better being part of something greater than themselves. It's comforting to know that no matter what, there is someone who will love you and be there for you.

    You might look at it as a life of ignorance. But if it makes someone happy and comfortable, then maybe non-believers are the ones in ignorance. Ignorance of how to be happy.

    Holy smokes, I must sound like a bible-thumper or something.. yikes. i'm gonna go puke now...

    are you saying non-believers are un-happy? im happy so are all my friends and family. Not a believer amongst us :-D
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    I don't believe in god and I'm very happy, all that potential R.Slicking forever.. No thanks.
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    no, that's impossible. you can't be happy without reiligion, there is no way. i can't even concieve how you could live such a lie! you are not happy! you just think you are...

    ps i'm not a believer either
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