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Quantime

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question for you
You ever heard of a person who has not closed there mind to a concept of god yet doesnt follow a religion? How about Einstein? Einstein was of this sort of position.
No, he wasn't, read his letter to Eric Gutkind:

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Albert Einstein
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this,"
Back up your claims before presenting them as fact.
I think the general process is that one makes a claim based on evidence then presentsthe evidence to back it up when requested.
in you above quote einstein is talking about a word... not a concept. He criticises the bible which the word 'God' comes from... he also praises it.
He's some more info on einstein for ya:
Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied due to his sometimes apparently ambiguous statements and writings on the subject. He said he believed in the god of
Baruch Spinoza, but not in a
personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an
agnostic, and criticized
atheism, preferring he said "an attitude of humility."
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Here you can see einstein criticised Atheism. You can also work out for yourself that your quote of Einstein is refering to a personal God concept. Einstein desribed himself as an agnostic... he didn't know, and he had the critical thinking capacities to realise he didn't know. Therefor he didn't draw a close minded conclusion, which is what atheism is all about (just like all religion).
he also said:
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive.
The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.

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Quantime

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question for you
Ok, all religions have the concept of God, it doesn't mean they invented it, or that you have to be in a religion to hold a concept of God.
Religion is the organised view of supernatural claims, belief in a supernatural being such as a God is still that, you believe there is a God. Why? There is no evidence and if you studied the evidence on how the universe comes to be you find that even a simple notion of their just being a God QED still means you are ignoring the facts of reality.
Who said I beleive in God?
Who said that God is 'supernatural'... can such a thing as supernatural exist? I think we are being exposed to more of your psuedo Atheist religious beleifs here. using these words you are expressing you'r misconception of god... which goes someway to explaining why you feel you have evidence to deny this 'concept'.
I'm afraid concepts of god are not as limited as you have been led to beleive.
Please say that thing about the facts of reality again... this time make it clear what onservations and experiments have shown that everybody with a simple notion of god is ignoring reality, and why.