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  1. #1 Why Did God Create Creatures that Became Extinct? 
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    Just curious. Even if the world is only 5000 years old to some, there are many critters known to have become extinct since man started keeping records. Seems silly to me to create a life form then have it die off. What possible purpose could God have for such a happenstance? How do creationists explain ongoing extinctions? What the hell is the purpose of the Devil's Hole Pupfish and other rare oddities, some which are on the brink?

    Does the fact that an all knowing God decided to create doomed species really make any sense? Are we just His little playthings until He gets tired of us? You think God would replace one extinct species with another but we never see that occur. If the animal species list was intended to become smaller since creation how small is it to get before the solar system goes kaput. Where are we on that list?

    I just can't get my head around creationism because of some of those things I mentioned earlier. Creation just doesn't make sense to me.


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    a lot of things dont make sense. if it dont make sense, forget about it. everybody i know that believes in God has different opinion. It is a mix of do you believe in angels, heaven, hell, devil, demons, fate, destiny, noahs arch, jesus rising from the dead, human superiority, afterlife, soul, prayer, going to church, sex before marriage, and you just named another one...



    also, if you look on it as an individual level and not think "well this species died out. this is bad." no, the fact that they WERE alive to enjoy God's plan is GOOD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter
    a lot of things dont make sense. if it dont make sense, forget about it. everybody i know that believes in God has different opinion. It is a mix of do you believe in angels, heaven, hell, devil, demons, fate, destiny, noahs arch, jesus rising from the dead, human superiority, afterlife, soul, prayer, going to church, sex before marriage, and you just named another one...
    If it doesn't make sense then God is responsible? I haven't heard that one before but I like it. You say that nonsense should be forgotten but why transfer it over to God then? Is God a safety deposit box for all things goofy?

    I guess if you build it then you can also tear it down. Everything that is must be something He will destroy. Well maybe He just claims to have built it. Perhaps His modus operandi is to destroy, it may just give Him great pleasure. Nothing we can do about it.

    Funny how extinction can be a result of the actions of His other creations. Poor Passenger Pigeon never knew what hit him. Is extinction a direct result of our God-given right to have dominion over the flora and fauna of this planet?
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    I think the answer is to consult a priest, he will say "God works in his mysterious ways" - which has always confused me because GOD is supposed to have directed others to put it all down in a book, so I guess you could look there for clues. If you find the answer and go back to the priest for clarification the reply will then be "The holy bible is NOT to be taken literally". Others will confirm this by saying "You need to read between the lines to achieve spiritual enlightenment".

    Somewhere along your path you will discover the book was written for people who lived 2000 years ago and that is why modern thinking is unable to truly interpret it. In such cases a second edition might not be a bad idea [hint hint if he's reading this].

    If a GOD suddenly appeared on earth, I think we'd all die of fright, this would mean the whole purpose of creating the universe[to be inhabited by man] was a waste of a week's work. Don't expect a divine reprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    If a GOD suddenly appeared on earth, I think we'd all die of fright, this would mean the whole purpose of creating the universe[to be inhabited by man] was a waste of a week's work. Don't expect a divine reprint.
    My Dear Children (and believe me, that's all of you),

    I consider myself a pretty patient man. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place, cell by cell, and gene by gene.

    I've been patient through your fashions, civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

    I want to let you know about some of the things that are starting to tick me off.

    First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let's get one thing straight.

    These are YOUR religions, not Mine.

    I'm the whole enchilada; I'm beyond them all. Every one of your religions claims there is only one of Me (which by the way, is absolutely true). But in the very next breath, each religion claims it's My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all the other bible's are man-made. Oh, My. How do I even begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?

    Okay, listen up now. I'm your Father AND Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children. Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway.

    So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women. They were inspired, remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word more than your own living heart.

    You see, one human being to me -- even a bum on the street -- is worth more than all the Holy Books in the world. That's just the kind of guy I am.

    My Spirit is not a historical thing, it's alive right here, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but not more so than the least of you.

    They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me. Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense.

    You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or "win souls" for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on my own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, and I don't need constant credit.

    I just want you to be good to each other.

    And another thing: I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas.

    For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royce's. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart!

    The thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of your religions is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around.

    Believe Me, I know you already. I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you with no strings attached.

    Lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion is best for. What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am.

    You look at the petty differences in your Scriptures and say, "Well, if THIS is the truth, then THAT can't be!" But instead of trying to figure out My Paradoxes and Unfathomable Nature--which by the way, you NEVER will--why not open your hearts to the simple common threads in all religions.

    You know what I'm talking about: Love and respect everyone. Be kind, even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I am always with you. Learn how to be quiet, so you can hear My still, small voice (I don't like to shout).

    Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My Own Child.

    Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but who do you think gave it to him in the first place?)

    Simple stuff. Why do you keep making it so complicated?

    It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I'm very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Wakantonka, Brahma, Father, Mother or even the Void of Nirvana?

    Do you think I care which of My special children you feel closest to

    -- Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed or any of the others?

    You can call Me and My Special Ones any name you choose, if only you would go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple? I'm not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs?

    Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart; I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all the Great Traditions in One Big Mess.

    Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But My Special Children

    -- the ones that your religions revolve around -- all live in the same place (My heart) and they get along perfectly, I assure you.

    The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries and confusion. The whole planet is connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual needs and concerns.

    Get with the program!

    If you really want to help then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry, clothe your naked, protect your abused, and shelter your poor. And just as importantly, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor.

    I've given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, loving, and laughing together.

    I'm not really ticked off, I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer.

    I just want you to be happy. Always. Trust in Me.

    Your One and Only,

    GOD :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess
    Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway.

    So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women.
    Just two things then - You don't write so we can ignore the statement.

    And Where the 'F' IS Elvis?

    Anon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess
    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    If a GOD suddenly appeared on earth, I think we'd all die of fright, this would mean the whole purpose of creating the universe[to be inhabited by man] was a waste of a week's work. Don't expect a divine reprint.
    My Dear Children (and believe me, that's all of you),

    I consider myself a pretty patient man. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place, cell by cell, and gene by gene.

    I've been patient through your fashions, civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

    I want to let you know about some of the things that are starting to tick me off.

    First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let's get one thing straight.

    These are YOUR religions, not Mine.

    I'm the whole enchilada; I'm beyond them all. Every one of your religions claims there is only one of Me (which by the way, is absolutely true). But in the very next breath, each religion claims it's My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all the other bible's are man-made. Oh, My. How do I even begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?

    Okay, listen up now. I'm your Father AND Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children. Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway.

    So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women. They were inspired, remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word more than your own living heart.

    You see, one human being to me -- even a bum on the street -- is worth more than all the Holy Books in the world. That's just the kind of guy I am.

    My Spirit is not a historical thing, it's alive right here, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but not more so than the least of you.

    They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me. Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense.

    You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or "win souls" for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on my own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, and I don't need constant credit.

    I just want you to be good to each other.

    And another thing: I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas.

    For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royce's. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart!

    The thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of your religions is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around.

    Believe Me, I know you already. I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you with no strings attached.

    Lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion is best for. What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am.

    You look at the petty differences in your Scriptures and say, "Well, if THIS is the truth, then THAT can't be!" But instead of trying to figure out My Paradoxes and Unfathomable Nature--which by the way, you NEVER will--why not open your hearts to the simple common threads in all religions.

    You know what I'm talking about: Love and respect everyone. Be kind, even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I am always with you. Learn how to be quiet, so you can hear My still, small voice (I don't like to shout).

    Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My Own Child.

    Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but who do you think gave it to him in the first place?)

    Simple stuff. Why do you keep making it so complicated?

    It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I'm very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Wakantonka, Brahma, Father, Mother or even the Void of Nirvana?

    Do you think I care which of My special children you feel closest to

    -- Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed or any of the others?

    You can call Me and My Special Ones any name you choose, if only you would go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple? I'm not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs?

    Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart; I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all the Great Traditions in One Big Mess.

    Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But My Special Children

    -- the ones that your religions revolve around -- all live in the same place (My heart) and they get along perfectly, I assure you.

    The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries and confusion. The whole planet is connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual needs and concerns.

    Get with the program!

    If you really want to help then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry, clothe your naked, protect your abused, and shelter your poor. And just as importantly, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor.

    I've given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, loving, and laughing together.

    I'm not really ticked off, I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer.

    I just want you to be happy. Always. Trust in Me.

    Your One and Only,

    GOD :-D
    Wow! :wink: Briliiant post! i like your idea! nice work on this..!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    Quote Originally Posted by Tess
    Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway.

    So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women.
    Just two things then - You don't write so we can ignore the statement.

    And Where the 'F' IS Elvis?

    Anon....
    I did not write it . God did or at least he sent me this in the e-mail. :-D
    but he told me in my dream that Elvis is sitting next to him.

    However, I wish we ignored the Bible or any other holly books. Humans wrote them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess
    I did not write it . God did or at least he sent me this in the e-mail. :-D
    but he told me in my dream that Elvis is sitting next to him.

    However, I wish we ignored the Bible or any other holly books. Humans wrote them.
    LMAO! Elvis is here curled up in his box asleep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    LMAO! Elvis is here curled up in his box asleep!

    Agree , I am an atheist…and he will never wake up.
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    "Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Isaac Asimov. "


    I wonder what he meant by 'those of us who do'?
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    INstead of double posting, you can always 'Edit' after you have posted if you forget something? - If I have not already bid you welcome then welcome to the Forum,

    Have a nice-stay!
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    Why Did God Create Creatures that Became Extinct?


    Simple answer "he didn't"
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    Why Did God Create Creatures that Became Extinct?


    Simple answer "he didn't"
    Maybe he wanted to see his own past, present and future!
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    Those creatures that became extinct: they’ve probably had their own functions in the times that they have lived in. If they are of no use anymore… You also can’t know the meaning of the creation of the world. Maybe the world is gone within 500 years because God wants it?! Then why would he have created the world at all?

    Everything has a reason, but maybe that reasons is not explainable.
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