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    When was the first time, that people knew there was only one God? And how did they know?

    I ask this question because of something my biology teacher said. First of al you should know that he is very atheistic and that I doubt that every thing he says is based on facts. Today he said during class that there are two sciences that are totally developed by Humans one is math, and the other is theology. He believes humans made up God, as many atheist do, and everything around Him. So my question, when did we humans first hear of God, and how did that happen?


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    my guess would be very early man when he first saw something that didnt make sense(which was most things :wink: )and that couldnt have been understood. how could lightning and the like be explained back then, my opinion is that it would be seen as spiritual. i know all the science behind it and its still amazes me :-D

    every culture in the world has a spiritual side to the culture, every cut off tribe in the middle of the rain forest all seem to have thoughts of a higher being and worship(if thats the universal word for it)

    organised religion and how that come about, im not sure :-D


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    I know they didn’t have an explanation for lightening and such, but is that a reason to directly think of a God?

    It seems a bit understandable to say, ‘he, id don’t understand this, So there must be a god’
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    I know they didn’t have an explanation for lightening and such, but is that a reason to directly think of a God?

    It seems a bit understandable to say, ‘he, id don’t understand this, So there must be a god’
    how else back then would you explain it? then theres fire, plagues of locusts(like we still get), massive floods, frogs and fish falling from the sky(as we have had in recorded times) and none of its going to make sense and amaze, then how easy do some of the bible storys fit

    quite easy to see how certain parts of the bible could come about from nature and make it to the famous stories :-D

    just my opinion, from my point of view it all makes sense to me :-D
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    Well my first thoughts would be of something mythical, monsters etc. And of course Gods would be an explanation, but I wouldn’t think of ONE God, but of something like the roman Gods.
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    It's a question we can only guess at, for my money (and there is plenty of historical evidence for this), the first 'god' was the sun, some people would have been afraid of the dark, and thankful when the sun returned, then you have the summer winter cycle, would the sun come back? and when it did it was good, it bought warmth and food. It's a short step to making an offering - yep you can apply the rules of evolution to to religion. All around the world there is evidence of sun worship. From South america to Stone henge, North american Indians, Inuit, and many cultures in the far east as well as Ancient Egypt. It is thought that people then believed their ancestors went to 'the sun' and it was the ancestors who bought the sun back. Eventually this really nice, beautiful, poetic, and indeed 'logical' [for the time] system was hijacked by the bad guys. Yep, they wanted the 'power' they could see the sun had over their fellow creatures. It has been corrupt ever since. I worship the sun - without it, I'd die.

    There are many parallels of this today, people are still afraid of the dark,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Well my first thoughts would be of something mythical, monsters etc. And of course Gods would be an explanation, but I wouldn’t think of ONE God, but of something like the roman Gods.

    yeah could be many gods, eg sun god etc. i think it'd be hard to tell when that evolved to one, look at hinduism in india that still have more than one god think its called a polytheistic religion

    as for the big two i dont know on that but whatever happened in was obviously pre-bible and koran by definition of the fact they list one. and when they were written is open to debate and how long before they were written did the idea come about?

    i dont think anyone will ever know that one
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    I thought this was a thread about everyone's first time. But seeing a complete lack of dirty talk in here... I think I'll duck out




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon
    I thought this was a thread about everyone's first time. But seeing a complete lack of dirty talk in here... I think I'll duck out




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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Well my first thoughts would be of something mythical, monsters etc. And of course Gods would be an explanation, but I wouldn’t think of ONE God, but of something like the roman Gods.
    The first known recorded instance of a singular god system (monotheistic) was developed by the egyptians. One of the Pharohs, through reasons unknown, forbid the worship of all other gods in favor of a single god. As the others have said, it was the sun god Ra. Unfortunately I again heard this on the TV so I can't find a bloody link (the internet needs to work on that) so instead I'll find an alternative supposed "first monotheistic religion".

    As for the reason, the reason is simply fear of the unknown. This is mostly what strives people to ponder and attempt to solve that which doesn't matter for everyday life. Of course, you first need intelligence to fear the unknown. This is why 90% of the human race can walk around without fear whatsoever when it comes to the unknown. Especially since they tend to have assumptions, which covers up the unknown like a safety blanket for those too incapable of learning.

    Oh! Wait! I found the link on Egypt! http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQ...heism_mono.htm

    The origin of monotheism is unclear. The first recorded monotheistic system arose in Egypt during the rule of Akhenaten, but it did not long survive his death. Some suggest that Moses, if he existed, brought monotheism to the ancient Hebrews, but it is possible that he was still henotheistic or monolatrous. Some evangelical Christians regard Mormonism as a modern example of monolatry because Mormonism teaches the existence of many gods of many worlds, yet worships only the one of this planet.
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    There used to be many gods, there is now only one, things are clearly going in the right direction. :wink:


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