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    Hey I am high school student who has recently had to give a speak on Creationism vs Evolution and while I choice to go the route of evolution I would like to see what everyone else has to say about this as long as you bring some evidence to the discussion rather than just ranting with no logical backing.


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    Read the thread How do you talk to someone like this? in this forum.
    Or the threads which have Daytontuner participating.

    For the argument that supports evolution, read "The greatest Show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins


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    Ha, ha ha ha, do something witchy!!! little boy...

    Creationism implies that God had to plant each vegetal specie on earth, one by one, or all at once...
    Which method could have used to plant millions & millions of different species? a flying saucer? a magic wand? ha ha ha

    do something witchy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    Ha, ha ha ha, do something witchy!!! little boy...
    Two problems with this the first I did this speak over a month ago and the other is that I stand over 6 ft and weigh over 200 pounds I stopped being little years ago.
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    Dakota,
    You may find you get a number of dramatic answers in regards to this question. I personally believe that evolution may have played a part but it was guided. Can I provide proof of this? No I cannot it is a personal feeling. Evolution is widely accepted and I have read documentation regarding behavioral evolution as well as physical evolution in simple creatures such as flat worms. I just personally believe there is a guiding hand to it all like a potter shaping clay. Again that is my personal feeling and I have no physical evidence to support it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    Ha, ha ha ha, do something witchy!!! little boy...
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    Evolution is the one that allows you to design drugs like penicillin around the expectation that the bacteria they're supposed to combat are going to adapt and change over time. If you don't believe in evolution, then you're forced to make believe that something else is causing those bacteria to adapt, or that it's magic or something. Clearly bacteria aren't an intelligent creature that's capable of learning from its own mistakes.

    So how else would you explain their ability to develop a resistance to drugs that target them? Evolution says the reason is because of natural selection. The bacteria that are least drug resistant die out first, leaving the more drug resistant ones to reproduce, and over time the ones with resistance become more numerous than the ones that can't resist.
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    Dakota. If you want an easy introduction to creationism versus evolution try Peter Hadfield's Potholer54 Youtube channel.

    Here's a sample.
    7 -- The Theory of Evolution Made Easy - YouTube
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    isolating "creationism" kinda implies defining "GOD"

    lets assume for the moment that there are limited patterns of molecular organization within the infinity of space and matter in the universe.

    if, then we are limited to a finite number of patterns of organization, then our evolution was predetermined within the limits of possibility of those finite patterns

    if then predeterminization of possible evolutions is indeed the limiting factor-----do we call that creationism?
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    if then predeterminization of possible evolutions is indeed the limiting factor-----do we call that creationism?
    No, we don't call that creationism.
    Creationism may imply predetermination, but predetermination does not necessarily imply creationism. It is just cause and effect. An effect is predetermined by (a) cause(s).
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