
Originally Posted by
somfooleishfool
Ok how's this. all throughout the ages, the sun has been worshipped and recognised as the reason we are alive and personified as a god. Many many many religions have almost the EXACT same story as the bible (many people seem to not know this). All of the religeons mentioned soon share many of the following storys. the savior born on the 25th, born of a virgin, the 3 kings followed the star in the east to find the birthplace, teacher at age 12, baptised at the age of 30, had 12 desciples, performed miricles such as healing the sick and walking on water, after being betrayed by *insert name here depending on religeon* the messiah was cruscified, then layed dead for 3 days only to be ressurected again. Many of these attributes are held in common with world religeons all throughout the ages. To list a few: Attis frijia(don't ask how to spell that, its pronounced phonetically from that spelling though) - 1200 BC, Krishna of the indian religeon 900BC, horris of egyption religeon 3000BC, Dionysus - Greece 500BC, Mithra - persia - 1200BC. There are strong indications that the storys that these religeons, and more, all hold in common, are purely astrological storys. If you bear with me and assume that the sun is jesus for a moment, the "THREE KINGS" (yes thats what those stars are actually called, even today) of orions belt follow the "star in the east" or Sirius (brightest star in the sky to the east of the 3 kings which all point in a line in the direction of the sun rise or, the birth of the sun, or the birth of Jesus. The virgin mary refurs to the constilation virgo.
If you go quite far north of the equator, you will notice that towards the end of the year, the days get shorter and the sun rises less and less, appearing to head further and further south, and eventually (on the 23rd of december) the sun will get to a point where it will barely rise, and stay like that for 3 days, during those 3 days it will reside in the viscinity of the southern cross or "crucifix" so the sun/jesus "dies" for 3 days having been "crucified" on the cross/southern cross and then finaly on december 25th the sun moves 1 degree north in the sky and and is "ressurected".
The twelve desciples are simply the 12 signs of the zodiac. You can actually notice the story getting copyed from the old testament to the new testament. joseph from the old testament is the same charactor as jesus from the new testament. they were both betrayed and sold for 30 pieces of silver, they both became child teachers at the age of 12, they both were baptised at age 30 and they both performed miricles such as healing the sick.
Thats just ONE aspect to take a tear at religeon. There are SO many angles you could take this from, religeon is easy to disprove to someone willing to listen. athiesm has the element of truth and it is EASY to see this when you start to expand what you know about science and religeon.
to take a few quick rips from different angles. god would have to be litterally "magic" to do the things he did, and if he can perform magic, its clearly possible, therefore with enough research, magic would be possible, but then you have to ask WHAT IS MAGIC? fact is once you define it and find out the mechanisms of how it works and what can be done and cant be done, you quickly discover that it is no longer magic. there is physically no possible way he could do the things he did.
ethics... no FAIR god would send all those who didnt BLINDLY believe in him to an eternity of suffering regardless of whether they were nice people or not. I'm a nice enough person but in my life iv found nothing short of proof that god doesn't exist and I would see it as extremely petty and unfair for me to be sent to hell because of this.
if you require me to go on from any different angles, just ask