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    Here's the thing, during my studies I've read some interesting results from a few research in which psychologists tried to understand the role of religion in the perception of suffering and disease. Most of the studies took place in the hospital and of course the most studied disease was cancer. Well, turned out that religion was not actually correlated to happiness, acceptance of death and neuro-endocrine activation, instead Spirituality was. In particular the idea of having a purpose, a mission and a life with meaning was predictive of the state of well being. So my question is, can't we just be honest with ourself and stop believing to psychotic other worlds, angels and old men talking to us during the night, or speaking non-sense in front of a statue and just find something pure and great in which we can dedicate our life? That whole bunch of stories, rituals, irrational beliefs, iconic forniture...those are just...irrelevant.


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    Define 'spirituality'.

    That is one word, alongside 'wisdom' and 'justice', that annoys the bejeezus out of me. Everyone has a different personal definition, which is usually pretty damn fuzzy.

    I would rather you found another word to describe what you are trying to say, which has a more exact scientific definition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic View Post
    Define 'spirituality'.

    That is one word, alongside 'wisdom' and 'justice', that annoys the bejeezus out of me. Everyone has a different personal definition, which is usually pretty damn fuzzy.

    I would rather you found another word to describe what you are trying to say, which has a more exact scientific definition.
    I define spirituality as "the sequence of thoughts that arises in reaction to one's cognizance of patterns." Perhaps that is not clear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amannucci View Post
    I define spirituality as "the sequence of thoughts that arises in reaction to one's cognizance of patterns." Perhaps that is not clear?
    So if I look at a map of a maze (a "pattern") and work out the route to the center ("sequence of thoughts") that is a spiritual activity?

    That is a great definition.
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    LOL. About as good as how some define religion around here--which would make bottle recycling drives, the NAACP and NRA as a religions.

    My definition of spirituality, which is really no better, defines it as getting an emotional feelings of awe, wonderment and connection to much larger and complex things--like nature or perhaps in a group singing to some mythical beings etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amannucci View Post
    I define spirituality as "the sequence of thoughts that arises in reaction to one's cognizance of patterns." Perhaps that is not clear?
    So if I look at a map of a maze (a "pattern") and work out the route to the center ("sequence of thoughts") that is a spiritual activity?

    That is a great definition.
    No. That is not what I meant. The desire to work out a route is the first thought that emerges. That is a desire to be challenged, and to overcome a challenge. I would call that spiritual, although not a particularly profound example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    LOL. About as good as how some define religion around here--which would make bottle recycling drives, the NAACP and NRA as a religions.

    My definition of spirituality, which is really no better, defines it as getting an emotional feelings of awe, wonderment and connection to much larger and complex things--like nature or perhaps in a group singing to some mythical beings etc.
    There is something spiritual about recycling drives: the idea that you can change the world for the better. That to me is spiritual.

    Of course, your definition touches on the more profound aspects. I completely agree that spirituality and awe are strongly related. There is much to be in awe about.

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