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  1. #1 Numbers of Religion 
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    I was making my Religion studies and noticed something
    amusing... nearly all of the important numbers can be formed
    from this combination

    1 - 3 - 7 - 18 - 12


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    Proof / Examples of this?


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    Here is only a few examples I came up with...
    (all the terms might not be right because I have to translate them
    to english)
    1:

    Most of the "Holy" visions has this number of artefacts...
    for example ONE burning sword, ONE blazing bush...

    3:
    It is the number of true nature of God, the holy Trinity,
    It is also the number of the Wise Kings (Kings of the East, Magi)
    Also the number of times Saint Peter, denied Jesus etc...
    Number of Crusifiction (Jesus + 2 thief)

    Also in Kabbalah, the number of pillars in sephiroths system.
    and when you decrease one you got two.

    2:
    The number of the Great Beastes of creation in the book of Job
    Number of the first humans and their first children (Adam & Eve, Kain & Abel)
    The number of Animals Noah took to his arch...
    The number of bread and fishes that Jesus used to feed the hungry.
    Also the number of stonetables given to Moses by the God

    When you decrease two from twelve you got ten, that appears many
    times in the Kabbalahs trees of Life & Death and also is
    the number of Archangels (if we count the three fallen ones)
    Also ten is number of Commandments.

    7:

    Number of Archangels (without the tree fallen ones)
    Number of the God (compare 777)
    When you decrease one you got six, what is the number of the Beast (compare 666)
    and by decreasing two you got five and thats
    the number of books of Moses...

    (by decreasing six with two you got four that is number of Horsemen
    in the Book of Revalation)

    This next one might be a bit uncorrect, but if I remember
    right, seven was number of the holy seals in the Book
    of Revalation

    12:

    Number of sons of Jakob
    The number of Apostles
    when you add eighteen you got number of named angels (archangels included)...

    18:

    When multipled with two, you got chapters in Numeri
    add six and you have number of books in New Testament...

    And if you think closely you will found more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternal
    I was making my Religion studies and noticed something
    amusing... nearly all of the important numbers can be formed
    from this combination

    1 - 3 - 7 - 18 - 12
    I think the reason for this is that you can form almost ALL numbers, or at least almost all up to 21, from these ones, and therefore all the 'important' ones would already be included:

    1 -> given
    2 -> 3-1
    3 -> given
    4 -> 3+1
    5 -> 12 - 7
    6 -> 18-12
    7 -> given
    8 -> 7+1
    9 -> 12-3
    10 -> 3+7
    11 -> 18-7
    12 -> given
    13 -> 12+1
    14 -> 7 x 2
    15 -> 12 + 3
    16 -> hmm...
    17 -> 18 - 1
    18 -> given
    19 -> 7 + 12
    20 -> hmm..
    21 -> 7 x 3

    The only two I couldn't think of ways to get using only two of the numbers from your sequence was 16 and 20.

    I did enjoy your theory though, it was a good obvservation, your mind is in the right place.

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    Well, maybe I ought to pay a bit attention my
    discovers next time and not to rush conclusions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternal
    Well, maybe I ought to pay a bit attention my
    discovers next time and not to rush conclusions...
    Haha, nah, that's what makes forums awesome, you can always have people you can bounce your ideas off of. It's always good to get someone else's views and perspectives on something, plus it gives other people a chance to think about something maybe they hadn't before then.

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    18:

    When multipled with two, you got chapters in Numeri
    add six and you have number of books in New Testament...
    Well, that's just silly. If there is no significance in 18 itself, why pick it? Apart from anything else, you have to add 9 to get the number of books in the New Testament (27), not 6. And what on earth is special about the number of chapters in Numbers? Pick 66 books of varying numbers of chapters up to 50, and one of them was bound to hit 36.

    1 - Unity.

    3 - The symbolic significance of 3 hardly needs spelling out, it's the most ancient revered number other than one.

    7 - Again, the number of cultures which have fixated on 7 as significant - probably because it's the smallest "strange" prime number, in that 2 and 3 are trivially significant, and 5 is half of 10 so the multiples go up in nice steps, whereas 7 doesn't really "fit" that way. The number of days in the week. This is why it's used for the prophecies of Joseph a lot. 7 x 7 = 49 = one less than fifty, which is why the laws about Jubilees was set as "after seven times seven years" etc.

    12 - The smallest number to have more than 2 divisors, always an eminently sensible number. If humanity had decided instead of just counting fingers to add two, base 12 would have been an eminently more sensible number base to use, and everybody in the world would be expert arithmeticians now.

    Mathematically, you can always pick any significant small numbers you like, particularly if you're adding them together. Goldbach's conjecture (that every even number is the sum of two primes) certainly holds true for any number that you're going to encounter in any religious textbook, and all the small primes are going to be significant.
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