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    I was playing around with words and this was result:

    God is the Word...

    Adam born from land...
    Man born from land?

    Man born from Eve...
    Eve was created from Adam...
    Man is part of Adam?

    God created Man...
    God created angels...
    angels are Holy...
    Man is Holy?

    God is Holy...
    Man to rule nature...
    angels to guard Man...
    angels guard God...
    Man is the God?

    Man is a picture...
    picture of God...
    God is the Word...
    Man is the Word...
    Word of God?


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    This reminds me of a cool line in a movie,

    "God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs, dinosaurs eat man, ........ women inherit the earth."


    And there is of course the Gospel of John.

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    I believe, the word "Word" used here is "Logos" a Greek word loaded with implications from pre-Socratic philosophy (the governing principle of the cosmos) and its usage here was clearly an appeal to members of the Hellenistic culture of the times. It is an intriguing passage full of mystery which we can chew on quite a bit, until boring Christians publish versions of Bible replacing "Word" with "Jesus". Well maybe the "Word" is Jesus, but Christians simplifying the world like this to suit themselves tick me off.


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    Jurassic Park - let's attribute things where they belong!

    Which Christians have replaced Word with Jesus in John 1:1, Mitchell? Even the conservative evangelist NIV uses "Word" in that verse.
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    I believe, the word "Word" used here is "Logos" a Greek word loaded with implications from pre-Socratic philosophy (the governing principle of the cosmos) and its usage here was clearly an appeal to members of the Hellenistic culture of the times. It is an intriguing passage full of mystery which we can chew on quite a bit, until boring Christians publish versions of Bible replacing "Word" with "Jesus". Well maybe the "Word" is Jesus, but Christians simplifying the world like this to suit themselves tick me off.
    Ah yes, the origin presumed to be by Heraclitus. It's interesting to read his works and see philosophers turn cryptic sentences into entire concepts of philosophy :P. But than, I guess the same is true for theology and those kind of verses..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas
    Jurassic Park - let's attribute things where they belong!

    Which Christians have replaced Word with Jesus in John 1:1, Mitchell? Even the conservative evangelist NIV uses "Word" in that verse.
    Some kind of New World translation or something. I saw it quite a while ago and I don't remember exactly what they called that translation. But you are right. Most translations used by conservative christians don't do this.
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    Heh, that would be the New World Translation of the Jehovah's Witnesses, I was just tussling with someone over bible versions over on sciforums, and this one came up.


    Now I'm checking it online, and the bone of contention with John 1:1 is not that they replace logos with Jesus, but that the NWT renders the verse, "And the Word was with God and the Word was a god". There's this whole webpage devoted to defending the NWT with extensive stuff about this "a" business. I hate to say it, but they're talking out of their bottoms. If the intention was to distinguish "The Word" as a separate, lesser god, then it would have been written in its own sentence, not as an afterthought clause in the very opening of the book. "The Word was with God and the Word was God" sounds almost contradictory, but that is clearly the intended (Gnostic mysticist) effect.
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