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    I started this post so that others can become aware of the
    existence of a Universal Mind. In other words, the spiritual
    connectivity of all our feeling and thoughts.
    I will start by describing the links I have witnessed to prove to
    my satisfaction that a Universal Mind exists.

    When I was about 9 or 10 years old, my father came home from
    work holding his side and appearing to be in great pain. So, one
    of my older siblings had my father taken to a hospital. It turned
    out that he had an attack of appendicitis.

    The link here is as follows: My fathers mothers name was
    Fanceska. My aunt living accross the street was named Francis.
    Her oldest daughter was named Francis (all above are deseased).
    The daughter had her first child delivered by caesarean
    operation. This preceded my fathers attack of appendicitis.
    So I concluded that this was a spiritual link a couple of decades
    later when thinking about it.

    This coincidence would not necassarily convince most people.

    I kept this in mind for a number of years later.
    Than when I got a new job in a tool shop after a period of
    unemployment of a few years, I was snag grinding and polishing
    (hand grinding and polishing) a 3/4 round guard cam that
    operates with a feed cam to move cutting tools.
    While polishing this cam on a SOFT polishing wheel, it grabbed
    the cam out of my hands and spun around and struck me in the
    right side of my abdomen.
    I rushed into the restroom to examine the damage. There was
    nothing serious but a red welt. So, I went back to work.
    Now here is the clincher evidence that convinced me of the
    existence of the Universal mind.
    The next day my forman informed us he had an ABDOMINAL
    RUPTURE and our department was shut down for two weeks
    until he recovered.

    So, IMO, probability here that involves similar locations of
    events and time, absolutely refutes this as a coincidence.

    I noticed other such coincidences and a couple that were
    important but personal, to convince myself that a UM is a
    reality. I could include several other lesser coincidences.

    Cosmo


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    you cou8ld say that there is a universal link between all humans, but this is hard to prove because you'd have to test it out with every human there is, also a link implies a relation between the two. i personally believe that this(a universal mind) is not the case. what i think is that there is a connection between you and those you know. if you see this as a possible substitute to your beli9ef then i would suggest you read the enderverse books that follow ender wiggin, by orson scott card, in the last two or three books(4books currently centered around ender, one more to be coming soon) it is centered greatly around philotics, a science of the souls in which the smallest building block of everything has been discovered:the philote. intellegent philotes are reffered to as an aiua[A - yu - a] or in plural aiui[
    A - yu - eye]. aiua are the souls of anything living and i think they also hold together the philotes in inanimate objects. in his books it is assumed that these philotes have connections amoungst themselves and then to their aiua which in turn has connections to other aiua that it interacts with. this relates quite well to you theory, perhaps you've already read these books.

    p.s. the books names are as follows in this order: ender's game, speaker for the dead, xenocide, children of the mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saul
    you cou8ld say that there is a universal link between all humans, but this is hard to prove because you'd have to test it out with every human there is, also a link implies a relation between the two. i personally believe that this(a universal mind) is not the case. what i think is that there is a connection between you and those you know. if you see this as a possible substitute to your beli9ef then i would suggest you read the enderverse books that follow ender wiggin, by orson scott card, in the last two or three books(4books currently centered around ender, one more to be coming soon) it is centered greatly around philotics, a science of the souls in which the smallest building block of everything has been discovered:the philote. intellegent philotes are reffered to as an aiua[A - yu - a] or in plural aiui[
    A - yu - eye]. aiua are the souls of anything living and i think they also hold together the philotes in inanimate objects. in his books it is assumed that these philotes have connections amoungst themselves and then to their aiua which in turn has connections to other aiua that it interacts with. this relates quite well to you theory, perhaps you've already read these books.

    p.s. the books names are as follows in this order: ender's game, speaker for the dead, xenocide, children of the mind.
    No, I did not read his books but there are other books written about Reincarnation,
    that I believe in, Edgar Cayce that cured the sick with his 'subconscious' diagnosing and treatments and I also believe in Karma that I have experienced personally.
    But the most important evidence for my article is my own experiences and that
    I have not listed here as well.

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    idk, I don't really see anything more than coincidence here, and to say that there is a way to make the case that it isn't a coincidence would be arrogant. Just because it SEEMS as if someone else received the injury of another, or that the complications that should have happened to one person affected another, gives NO viability to the idea that they are not coincidental. There are too many things to consider here, and your theory may be the right one, but it is immune to the test of verification and that causes it to be inherently fallacious.

    And, btw, the first example you gave, spanning decades, is incredibly weak evidence, if it could be considered to be evidence at all. I fear you are imposing your own ideology onto the events you witness, and forcing them to be 'evidence' for your theory.
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    i made a thread about this, and it failed miserably.
    i guess it must've been the anthill comparison, and saying that the only way for there to be an omnipotent, omnipresent god, is that if god was an universal mind.

    i also have a much better coincidence:

    i've just moved, and one night i was dreaming of moving back, since i miss where i lived a bit.
    the next day, my cousin says she had a strange dream, that i was missing home.

    coincidence 2:

    my cousin is dreaming again, a pretty ugly dream about the old place she lived.
    a friend of hers has a similar ugly dream, about the same old place.
    the day after, there's reports in the newspapers that 2 drug addicts had OD'd there.
    oh and to top it off, this place is an ancient viking burial ground 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejawolf
    i made a thread about this, and it failed miserably.
    i guess it must've been the anthill comparison, and saying that the only way for there to be an omnipotent, omnipresent god, is that if god was an universal mind.

    i also have a much better coincidence:

    i've just moved, and one night i was dreaming of moving back, since i miss where i lived a bit.
    the next day, my cousin says she had a strange dream, that i was missing home.

    coincidence 2:

    my cousin is dreaming again, a pretty ugly dream about the old place she lived.
    a friend of hers has a similar ugly dream, about the same old place.
    the day after, there's reports in the newspapers that 2 drug addicts had OD'd there.
    oh and to top it off, this place is an ancient viking burial ground 8)
    Yes, what you say about the coincidence of dreams can be an example of the interconectivity of this Universal Mind .

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    For what it's worth, I only believe in the knowable, provable and observable via intelligent evaluation. Therefore I do not believe in reincarnation as it makes no sense whatsoever, and provided I understand what ‘My Name is Earl’ is all about, I likewise disbelieve Karma.

    On the other hand, I am entirely convinced that this ‘Universal Mind’ you speak of via your illustrations, is thoroughly knowable, and is right now becoming ever more provable. Furthermore, we have been observing it forever – with only the slightest of inklings in regards what we have been looking at, for we have been forever making the mistake of ignoring the intelligence within this MIND - as we defer to the emotions within our flesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apopohis Reject
    For what it's worth, I only believe in the knowable, provable and observable via intelligent evaluation. Therefore I do not believe in reincarnation as it makes no sense whatsoever, and provided I understand what ‘My Name is Earl’ is all about, I likewise disbelieve Karma.

    On the other hand, I am entirely convinced that this ‘Universal Mind’ you speak of via your illustrations, is thoroughly knowable, and is right now becoming ever more provable. Furthermore, we have been observing it forever – with only the slightest of inklings in regards what we have been looking at, for we have been forever making the mistake of ignoring the intelligence within this MIND - as we defer to the emotions within our flesh.
    Reincarnation has been proven by the memories of children that died and were reborn in life again with their new family.
    These children mention their last family and locations. These were investigated and proven to be true.
    There are books written about reincarnation.

    Karma is also fact proven to me from personal experiences.

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    Cosmo Wrote;
    Reincarnation has been proven by the memories of children that died and were reborn in life again with their new family.
    These children mention their last family and locations. These were investigated and proven to be true.
    There are books written about reincarnation.

    Karma is also fact proven to me from personal experiences.
    Unless of course that both the above have another and better explanation which is yet to be explored.

    In any case, I fail to see how either of these sub-topics of discussion, particularly the one of reincarnation, comes close to proving your assertion for a Universal Mind. For mine, there is far more knowable and provable evidence - in abundance, which for various reasons, has forever been overlooked.
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