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    If you understand what the quantum-gap is then there is no need to prove anything least of all that gods exist because it is SELF-evident that they cannot exist except in the thoughts that they are. Other than these quantum-gaps -- that are the Unified Field, Advaita's Atman, Samadhi, -- only thoughts like god and life can exist. Thus god can no more exist than can the thought called atheism.

    And compared to this Reality that quantum-gaps define thoughts like life and god and death are just Reality's nothing called fiction, thoughts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by genep
    If you understand what the quantum-gap is then there is no need to prove anything least of all that gods exist because it is SELF-evident that they cannot exist except in the thoughts that they are. Other than these quantum-gaps -- that are the Unified Field, Advaita's Atman, Samadhi, -- only thoughts like god and life can exist. Thus god can no more exist than can the thought called atheism.

    And compared to this Reality that quantum-gaps define thoughts like life and god and death are just Reality's nothing called fiction, thoughts.
    Well as a physicist I know a great deal about quantum mechanics and quantum field theory but I do not know what you mean by "quantum gap," so perhaps you should explain what this means. I think there is a great deal that is self-evident to you that is not self-evident to me or a great many people. Now you can be happy with you self-evident revelation of truth to yourself, but if you come here to post that suggest some desire to communicate you discoveries. I think that you will find that communication requires a great deal more effort than does your apparently effortless (since you use the words "self evident") discovery of truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by genep
    If you understand what the quantum-gap is then there is no need to prove anything least of all that gods exist because it is SELF-evident that they cannot exist except in the thoughts that they are. Other than these quantum-gaps -- that are the Unified Field, Advaita's Atman, Samadhi, -- only thoughts like god and life can exist. Thus god can no more exist than can the thought called atheism.

    And compared to this Reality that quantum-gaps define thoughts like life and god and death are just Reality's nothing called fiction, thoughts.
    Well that sounds pretty wierd... :-D But using lingistic rules you could say the word god was an emtpy statement as it dosent relate to anything in reality so to speak. As for example a horse or a man. Some people refer to god as the coherence in nature, but this would also prove nothing as thestatement would lose its original meening.
    Hope i dont get bashed for saying this :?
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    The only time I've heard the term "quantum gap" used in science was as a synonym for "band gap" when talking about semiconductors.
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    Does one cross the quantum gap by making a quantum leap? In which case we only need Scott Bakula to explain all of this.
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    The claim seems to be that "quantum gaps" explain everything! Sad to say the author failed to tell us what the hell a "quntum gap" is! Once he has thoroughly enlightened us on that, then and only then is he, and we, able to begin to judge what, if anything, it does explain!

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    science can prove 99.99 of the universe, the remainder is gods, or miracles.
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    I think to say that "science can prove 99.99[%]of the universe," is failing to understand the limitations of science. I would place the percentage proven far less since the vast majority of the universe is unknown. I would also say that to say "the remainder is gods, or miracles" shows a lack of understanding of the extent and potential of science. Just because something is yet unknown doesn't mean there is magic involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    I think to say that "science can prove 99.99[%]of the universe," is failing to understand the limitations of science. I would place the percentage proven far less since the vast majority of the universe is unknown. I would also say that to say "the remainder is gods, or miracles" shows a lack of understanding of the extent and potential of science. Just because something is yet unknown doesn't mean there is magic involved.
    magic is different than religion. if you can find a scientific way for all the miracles, than i will agree
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    Magic and supernatural agents are a part of every religion. Some religions tend to deny that the mystical explanations are "magic," however. By the term magic, I mean that supposed psychic or mystical influence that is believed to affect people or things. Such as holy water, crosses, voodoo dolls, mangu, mana, signing the cross, spells, etc.

    Assigning that which is unknown to supernatural agents is a very primitive and premature action by the superstitious. I'd rather just say, "I don't know," than say a "god must have did it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    I think to say that "science can prove 99.99[%]of the universe," is failing to understand the limitations of science.
    I would say that this is failing to understand the nature of science. Science is not about proof, it is about explanation and prediction.
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