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  1. #1 Raises hand..... 
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    Picked this up from the disappointed christian post:


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    3. The funny one: Can you see the wind? No, I can see the effects of
    the wind but I have never seen the wind. How is it I know it exists.


    By it's effects, you just said that. There are no effects for god.

    Can anyone disprove this statement?
    That is can you offer any effects created by god?

    Or can anyone prove this statement?


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    Quote Originally Posted by North_Star
    Picked this up from the disappointed christian post:


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    3. The funny one: Can you see the wind? No, I can see the effects of
    the wind but I have never seen the wind. How is it I know it exists.


    By it's effects, you just said that.

    There are no effects for god.

    Can anyone disprove this statement?
    ...
    Or can anyone prove this statement?
    No to both questions,

    but can anyone prove that the answer is no?


    Quote Originally Posted by North_Star
    That is can you offer any effects created by god?
    Sure. So could you.

    But if you insist...
    God supposedly created the universe so... the universe is one such effect.
    God supposedly talks to people and does all kinds of things that makes people believe in Him so... all those who believe in God is another such effect.

    but can anyone prove that these are effects created by God?


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    Quote Originally Posted by North_Star
    Picked this up from the disappointed christian post:


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    3. The funny one: Can you see the wind? No, I can see the effects of
    the wind but I have never seen the wind. How is it I know it exists.


    By it's effects, you just said that. There are no effects for god.

    Can anyone disprove this statement?
    That is can you offer any effects created by god?

    Or can anyone prove this statement?
    Given the extent of god's influence, how could you possibly indicate an effect that doesn't bear some relationship of contingency towards god?
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    Quote Originally Posted by North_Star
    Picked this up from the disappointed christian post:


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    3. The funny one: Can you see the wind? No, I can see the effects of
    the wind but I have never seen the wind. How is it I know it exists.


    By it's effects, you just said that. There are no effects for god.

    Can anyone disprove this statement?
    That is can you offer any effects created by god?

    Or can anyone prove this statement?
    Yes.
    Besides many small ones that happen, there is the 'Black Plague' that the Roman Empire was punished for when the 'black powder' was brought to the Romans that was certainly intended to increase their 'power base' as the dominant predators in the past history. So this implied more power as predators and that was true because the subsequent 'gun and cannon' was the result.

    Another major event was the punishment of the jews for the sins of Joe Stalins mass killings of the Russian people that was in the millions.

    From a personal note, after my age 12, I never told a lie until about 3 decades later, I lied to two of my friends and apparently was punished when I developed 'yellow jaundice' (liver=lie). I relly believe that to be true.
    I have not told a lie since. Ha ha. No joke.

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