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    Believers. At end time, What is the first item of Godís perfect works, would you ask God to adjust?

    Believers. Many of you await a savior at some point in time. None believers, no disrespect but this question means nothing to you even though I know that your wish list would include much of what believers will want in terms of more peace and security.

    Scripture indicates that God is perfect. It also indicates that His works are perfect.

    Which one of us will stand proudly or grovel sheepishly, before God and point out a slight deficiency to His Perfect works.

    Whose balls are that big?

    Debate.--- Not on how big our balls need to be--.


    Will and or should we request change to the status quo when God drops by?

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    How did he fuck up if you dont mind em asking?

    Not everything that is beautiful si gentle... sometimes things have to be hideous for us to really appreciate them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sox
    How did he fuck up if you dont mind em asking?

    Not everything that is beautiful si gentle... sometimes things have to be hideous for us to really appreciate them.
    I don't know. To me, my God does not screw up and I do not wait for Him to return. He has no reason to. Things are as they should be.

    It is to those who await an end time that I pose the question.


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    If everything is perfect then why the fuck Christians are waiting for a Saviour?!
    If all is perfect in your book that what there's to be saved from?

    Just go out to the street, OPEN your eyes for just 10 minutes, soak the
    behaviour of your comerades and pass-byers, look at the essence of the world
    and you shall see how rotten it is.

    I challenge you - Greatest I am, to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect
    in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    If everything is perfect then why the fuck Christians are waiting for a Saviour?!
    If all is perfect in your book that what there's to be saved from?

    Just go out to the street, OPEN your eyes for just 10 minutes, soak the
    behaviour of your comerades and pass-byers, look at the essence of the world
    and you shall see how rotten it is.

    I challenge you - Greatest I am, to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect
    in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
    To me?

    What for? Surrender what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    I challenge you ... to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
    Gee, now that you mention it, my wife always tells me that I think I'm perfect...and I do...except for some minor faults. :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    If everything is perfect then why the fuck Christians are waiting for a Saviour?!
    If all is perfect in your book that what there's to be saved from?

    Just go out to the street, OPEN your eyes for just 10 minutes, soak the
    behaviour of your comerades and pass-byers, look at the essence of the world
    and you shall see how rotten it is.

    I challenge you - Greatest I am, to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect
    in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
    To me?

    What for? Surrender what?

    Regards
    DL
    Surrender to your claims of which there's perfectness in the world.
    From what I see your sole quest in this forum is to convince people that
    the world is perfect as it was created by God and God "doesn't scre things up".

    Now there's your chance for the gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    If everything is perfect then why the fuck Christians are waiting for a Saviour?!
    If all is perfect in your book that what there's to be saved from?

    Just go out to the street, OPEN your eyes for just 10 minutes, soak the
    behaviour of your comerades and pass-byers, look at the essence of the world
    and you shall see how rotten it is.

    I challenge you - Greatest I am, to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect
    in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
    To me?

    What for? Surrender what?

    Regards
    DL
    Surrender to your claims of which there's perfectness in the world.
    From what I see your sole quest in this forum is to convince people that
    the world is perfect as it was created by God and God "doesn't scre things up".

    Now there's your chance for the gold.
    Those who favor a miracle working God, give Him an attribute of perfection. From perfection flows perfection. From imperfection flows imperfection.
    If these statements are true then things must be perfect if there is as perfect God.

    At no point in time can God look back and see imperfection in His once perfect systems. T o be true to His attributes, God cannot lose perfection. If He does it would mean that He was not the true God in the first place. Someone can do better. A perfect God.
    We should remember that perfection is always evolving to a higher order.

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    Well, there's your problem right there. This statement is indeed untrue.
    Many "imperfect" things can indeed create something "perfect" or at least.. "better".
    See Alchemy, (Elixier of life, Philosophers stone
    these things are legends.. but then again, so is God..) :?

    A perfect God wouldn't of created the flood and admitted afterwards that he fucked
    up and could of come up with a better punishment.

    A perfect God will not need servants(Angels) to do his bidding, in that matter
    he shouldn't care if one sees him or not.

    And as I said before: In a perfect world Christians/Jews/Muslims would not need
    a "Saviour".

    p.s. I noticed that you have the same exact claim in all your posts regarding Perfection, please vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Well, there's your problem right there. This statement is indeed untrue.
    Many "imperfect" things can indeed create something "perfect" or at least.. "better".
    See Alchemy, (Elixier of life, Philosophers stone
    these things are legends.. but then again, so is God..) :?

    A perfect God wouldn't of created the flood and admitted afterwards that he fucked
    up and could of come up with a better punishment.

    A perfect God will not need servants(Angels) to do his bidding, in that matter
    he shouldn't care if one sees him or not.

    And as I said before: In a perfect world Christians/Jews/Muslims would not need
    a "Saviour".

    p.s. I noticed that you have the same exact claim in all your posts regarding Perfection, please vary.
    We share the same disbelief of the magical, mystical, fairy land that literal readers embrace.

    What can you do with fools eh?

    As to perfection, in our reality, all God would need do is change the location of one atom to change the course of any of our histories if He knew what outcome He wanted and how to get there. He does not because to interfere with one interferes with all. If He is a God of miracles that is.

    My God does not do any so we can only speculate. We have no miracle here other than everything, to examine.

    In examining everything, I find it perfect.
    What would you change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    In examining everything, I find it perfect.
    What would you change?
    A plenty.

    In a perfect world living things will be immortal, people will love eachother, there
    will be no differences of opinion, no stupid people, no killers, no natural disasters.

    Muslims/Christians/Jews would not care for anothers religions, let alone try
    to convert others for their religion and kill those who resist/oppuse them. In fact,
    there would be only one religion or no religion at all.

    But this way the world will be a dull place, which is unperfect. A paradox in a way.. :?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    In examining everything, I find it perfect.
    What would you change?
    A plenty.

    In a perfect world living things will be immortal, people will love eachother, there
    will be no differences of opinion, no stupid people, no killers, no natural disasters.

    Muslims/Christians/Jews would not care for anothers religions, let alone try
    to convert others for their religion and kill those who resist/oppuse them. In fact,
    there would be only one religion or no religion at all.

    But this way the world will be a dull place, which is unperfect. A paradox in a way.. :?
    We can never know unless we try it.

    Philosophers have said that all Shangri-Las die from boredom.
    Is this why there is evil in perfection? Just so we do not stagnate into boredom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    In examining everything, I find it perfect.
    What would you change?
    A plenty.

    In a perfect world living things will be immortal, people will love eachother, there
    will be no differences of opinion, no stupid people, no killers, no natural disasters.

    Muslims/Christians/Jews would not care for anothers religions, let alone try
    to convert others for their religion and kill those who resist/oppuse them. In fact,
    there would be only one religion or no religion at all.

    But this way the world will be a dull place, which is unperfect. A paradox in a way.. :?
    We can never know unless we try it.

    Philosophers have said that all Shangri-Las die from boredom.
    Is this why there is evil in perfection? Just so we do not stagnate into boredom?

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am
    In examining everything, I find it perfect.
    What would you change?
    A plenty.

    In a perfect world living things will be immortal, people will love eachother, there
    will be no differences of opinion, no stupid people, no killers, no natural disasters.

    Muslims/Christians/Jews would not care for anothers religions, let alone try
    to convert others for their religion and kill those who resist/oppuse them. In fact,
    there would be only one religion or no religion at all.

    But this way the world will be a dull place, which is unperfect. A paradox in a way.. :?
    We can never know unless we try it.

    Philosophers have said that all Shangri-Las die from boredom.
    Is this why there is evil in perfection? Just so we do not stagnate into boredom?

    Regards
    DL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    If everything is perfect then why the fuck Christians are waiting for a Saviour?!
    If all is perfect in your book that what there's to be saved from?

    Just go out to the street, OPEN your eyes for just 10 minutes, soak the
    behaviour of your comerades and pass-byers, look at the essence of the world
    and you shall see how rotten it is.

    I challenge you - Greatest I am, to find me ONE, just ONE thing which is perfect
    in this world(exept God) and I shall surrender to you.
    I though chrestian debated that nature was perfect until we screewed it up
    A pilot lives in a world of perfection, or not at all.

    ó Richard S. Drury,
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