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    It is based on a ear to ear writing.
    It has been translated quite a few times.
    And few hundred years ago some guys decided what they wanted to put in. Remove this this this and keep this...
    Bible = man made.

    Take 20 people and pass on a word or a little complicate sentense. The word won't be the same in the end.
    Just commun sens.

    And than you get guys who interpret one different sentense in two ways from this bible and say this is the true way!


    What's the point in the end?


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    Quote Originally Posted by timel

    What's the point in the end?
    The Bible's purpose is to provide inspiration...it should not be interpreted literally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkawohl
    Quote Originally Posted by timel

    What's the point in the end?
    The Bible's purpose is to provide inspiration...it should not be interpreted literally.
    Then how can it be inspirational.
    If as the majority of Christians believe, that the bible is the inherent word of god, then it is understandable why there have been so many wars, and so much killing, taken literally it is a book on how to kill. Thus it has if you like inspired christians to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    Quote Originally Posted by kkawohl
    Quote Originally Posted by timel

    What's the point in the end?
    The Bible's purpose is to provide inspiration...it should not be interpreted literally.
    Then how can it be inspirational.
    If as the majority of Christians believe, that the bible is the inherent word of god, then it is understandable why there have been so many wars, and so much killing, taken literally it is a book on how to kill. Thus it has if you like inspired christians to kill.
    The Bible being the ultimate authority, much less literal truth didn't arise until around the time of the Reformation, or Revolt, as it's called by Catholics; and, even then, for only a very small minority of the world's Christians. The custodians of the torch of Christianity didn't come to believe in the Bible as the literal Word of God for more than a thousand years after the Council of Nicea and only a minuscule fraction of all the Christians who have ever lived have regarded it as so being.

    Also, evolution is a problem primarily with fundamentalists. The majority of Christians who have a theological problem with Evolution are mainly the minority number of fundamentalists. Of course, like Muslim fundamentalists, they are the loudest and most strident factions of the religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    Then how can it be inspirational.
    We evolved it that way. So much better than a single author's frozen words. It's like some yeast cultures we've been using for thousands of years, and now depend on. Steeped in prehistoric tradition and also symbiotic. See dogs.

    I agree the "God's Guide to Tribal Warfare" chapters are obsolete. Well, the Romans drove that home, thus Christ and New Testament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    Quote Originally Posted by kkawohl
    Quote Originally Posted by timel

    What's the point in the end?
    The Bible's purpose is to provide inspiration...it should not be interpreted literally.
    Then how can it be inspirational.
    What does that have to do with whether it is inspirational? You need to talk to a successful author. They quite often don't write their books to be interpreted in only one way. They understand that people are different and that different things interest them, different things touch their heart and different things are needed to speak to the unique circumstances of their own lives.


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    If as the majority of Christians believe, that the bible is the inherent word of god, then it is understandable why there have been so many wars, and so much killing, taken literally it is a book on how to kill. Thus it has if you like inspired christians to kill.
    Perfect nonsense. People have never needed any instruction on how to kill. To suggest that is moronic. The question that has always challenged them instead is how to see other human beings as something that they should not kill. It is the great religions that have reached across boundaries to bring a recognition of a common humanity, for otherwise each cultures word for human would remain a word meaning their kind of people. As one of the oldest books in the world the Bible reflects this historical change in attitudes.

    The Bible has NEVER inspired Christians to kill. It has ALWAYS been an obstacle which those wanting to make war have had to find a way around. To remove Christianity and the other great religions is only to remove an obstacle and to make war easier not harder. Wars are fought for the same reasons that people commit murder, and the top of the list is always economic, i.e. property. Certainly when Christians have gone to war they have tried to tell themselves that they are justified and that God is on their side

    When a book's most important words are recognized to be things like, "love your enemies", "turn the other cheek", and "blessed are the peacemaker", it is not war that it inspires but peace. Now it hasn't always inspired people to be perfect pacifists like it did the Quakers, but it has never inspired war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    Quote Originally Posted by kkawohl
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    What's the point in the end?
    The Bible's purpose is to provide inspiration...it should not be interpreted literally.
    Then how can it be inspirational.
    Oh come on, the bible has inspired many a person, be they famous or not. As have many other works of fiction, would anybody have thought to right books on dragons, or paint said creatures, if it wasn't for myth and legends, the bible is just another book of myth that some have derived pleasure and inspiration from.
    Quote Originally Posted by pavlos
    If as the majority of Christians believe, that the bible is the inherent word of god, then it is understandable why there have been so many wars, and so much killing, taken literally it is a book on how to kill. Thus it has if you like inspired Christians to kill.
    People kill for many reasons, however I happen to agree to an extent with you, in regard to the bible, being an incitement to violence, Cruelty and injustice. as is, I must say the Quran.
    However I will say there is a lot of good in it, if you care look, but unfortunately the bad outweighs the good ten fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timel
    It is based on a ear to ear writing.
    It has been translated quite a few times.
    And few hundred years ago some guys decided what they wanted to put in. Remove this this this and keep this...
    Bible = man made.

    Take 20 people and pass on a word or a little complicate sentense. The word won't be the same in the end.
    Just commun sens.

    And than you get guys who interpret one different sentense in two ways from this bible and say this is the true way!


    What's the point in the end?
    The Bibles all deliver poorly.

    The end is to reach heaven with your head up and not on your knees.
    Careful how you read scripture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    The Bible has NEVER inspired Christians to kill.
    "Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed." (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

    "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    "If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

    " Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    Certainly when Christians have gone to war they have tried to tell themselves that they are justified and that God is on their side
    "(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

    it has never inspired war.
    "Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
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    The bible is an evil book that was written by a people for elavating their own self respect as a cult and being YHWH's chosen people.

    It is the source of all conflicts today.

    So to me, it is a junk religion that Karl Marx (a jew) renounced as a drug.

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