Thread: God show your true form or shall i accept you art thou Earth

'God' a word with no definate defination or observational qualities, no evidence of it as thing in itself - other than nature (the human being for example).

'Nature' a word and a truth for all to observe as it is observationally clear that nature is everywhere and within all space.

Please refer to Topic - 'Mother Earth the creator of life and religion'
or post here specifically on the above statement

There is no need to create another thread to advertise another one of yours. Why didn't you put this into your directed thread and hopefully get some feedback on that?

Why should i justify my actions to someone who rarely has anything to post in relation to the topics.

You don't. But there are over 300 active members who may be looking at this. I'm not bothered if you justify it to me, thats your choice, but do you choose to not justify it to the rest?

Then again as I say, you don't have to justify anything. It will make you look more congruent if you do, and you could use that. I'm trying to point you in the right direction.

PS I don't post anything in relation to these topics because the topics I have come to realise are inextricable and I know all there is to know about them, that is, knowing nothing.

the post does not need justification.

It is the content which matters. I shall repeat it as this topic has now spun from its roots.. So i shall replace the root of the topic below.


'God' a word with no definate defination or observational qualities, no evidence of it as thing in itself - other than nature (the human being for example).

'Nature' a word and a truth for all to observe as it is observationally clear that nature is everywhere and within all space.

Many people have idea's in mind about 'God' being an energy form or 'spirit' which dwells within all living things.. I would like to know more about this spirit, but it seemingly does not exist, so how can anyone argue a point for it?

Originally Posted by Dlrow

'God' a word with no definate defination or observational qualities, no evidence of it as thing in itself - other than nature (the human being for example).

what makes you say that?

'Nature' a word and a truth for all to observe as it is observationally clear that nature is everywhere and within all space.

actually all we get are small glimpses of nature. Nobody sees it in its entirety, so its not clear why you are working with anything that doesn't operate within the parallels you open with
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punarmusiko - ''what makes you say that?''

Im not sure how to take this question.

punarmusiko - ''actually all we get are small glimpses of nature. Nobody sees it in its entirety, so its not clear why you are working with anything that doesn't operate within the parallels you open with''

The above in response to - 'Nature' a word and a truth for all to observe as it is observationally clear that nature is everywhere and within all space.

I agree that we only 'partly sense' the natural events but we do observe reality as a natural form; as our eyes and other senses are part of nature..
I do not understand the second part of that post as you say i am not working anything that doesn't operate within the parallels of what i open with; this centence i do not understand, please explain it.

MOTHER is the word for GOD, on the lips and hearts of all children...

Brandon Lee 93'
J.O'bar .. The Crow..

Is the word for god?

So all mothers are god? or seperate gods?

Or is everything god?

I think that means when your that young you havent been taught our Influenced into Anothers way of thinking, Your still a Free spirit sort to say. Only threw time and Mostly Others influences do we develope charteristics and beliefs we or they Learners belive to be Or May be true. Religeon, Ethereal, Whatever. Thats why alot of people grow out of the fear of the dark or stop beleiving in ghosts. It's not that they stop believing it's that they get influenced or taught that those things are only imaginations gone astray. Well I'm 38 now and I still belive in ghosts. Mainly because I grew up on the east coast near Salem Mass. so there's alot of netherworldly stuff thought to be going on around that area.. But . If you believe in religeon you belive in the "Holy Ghost", so all the sudden Ghost are bad but the Holy Ghost is Cool... Huh... Anyways..... So I thinking that the word MOTHER here is trying to say that when a Child is being raised, he or she doesnt see anything else for guidance or shelter.. Almost like animals.. Do you think animals live in fear of god??... Do you think in there little heads day to day they are thinking about wheather they should or shouldnt do a certain thing because God will strike them down and banish them from heaven???.. I think thats a good forum question..
anyways. there a little on that question i could go on for a while but I have World of Warcraft to destroy....

Interesting post.. I have been thinking about ghosts recentley, weather or not a ghost is a figment/creation of the imagination or an actual existence on some level.
I have had an experience once in germany with what i thought was a ghost, it still sends shivvers through my body now as did at the time of my experience.. It was a young girl who walked into my room late at night and stood at the end of my bed, she said something in german and proceeded towards me.. my body was completely disabled, i was trying to move to confront it so it would go away because i was afraid but i couldnt move and i couldnt shout.. The girl changed into a mere figure which rushed towards my bed, almost into my body as a shot up towards it from a lying down position breaking free from my constriction. As i shot up i managed to shout 'who is that!' but as i did it disappeared into what was the light reflecting off the white door frame behind...

The above is a very short way of discribing the entire experience, it actually all happened quite slowly, the whole time my body and voice were totally usless, like my muscles were totally unable to function, i could hardly tilt my neck to watch it.

But i dont really know what i experienced... I know i had a bad dream before i woke up, but i also know that i was awake when this experience came to follow, my eyes were open the whole time, from the moment i came out of the dream to the moment the figure went and i was left with the white door frame.

It certainly made me reconsider my belifes about ghosts..

The holy ghost i have no experience with. This ghost was a german girl who iv never seen or heard of before in my life. I have been overwhelmed by feelings of a something far greater than what i can feel at my will while i was in india but never direct contact with the holy ghost.

But i dont really know what i experienced... I know i had a bad dream before i woke up, but i also know that I was awake when this experience came to follow, my eyes were open the whole time, from the moment i came out of the dream to the moment the figure went and i was left with the white door frame.

I have woken up many times with my mindset and the circumstances of my dream still part of what i was seeing. I had to wait a while and consciously focus on my surroundings before I could re-orientate my mind to reality. I am thinking that what you experienced was something like this.

Yes i naturally thought this also.. I hoped this at the time.. But i later found out that my cousin whom i was staying with, she had experiences of someone walking around in the house while no body was there.. Same with the other person who lived there, he also heard footsteps late a night. My cousin thought it was a girl who made the foot steps.. when i told her the next day she already knew it was probally the girl. Very strange.. my dreams before were more nightmares, dark images of all kinds of horrible things for some reason and the last image i had in my dream before i awoke was actually a girl. I can remember not being able to wake up from the bad nightmare i was having, the last image was a girl in a shower cubical or cuboard, she was covered in blood and dirt, she posed a threat to me and i didnt like her at all (in my dream) .. i couldnt wake up so in my dream i made an effort to punch her in the face to kill her and kill this horrible dream more over.. i thought it worked because i woke up.. but then i see all this happening and i started to question if i was awake or still dreaming if this was my cousin standing at the end of my bed or something else, but i couldnt speak, i couldnt move i was just watching.

Maybe my mind was picking up on a different reality of some sort, a very distorted reality. maybe the dream was a representation of some actual reality, then when i thought i awoke i actually tunned into this other reality on a larger more adopted level... I dont know if i will ever explain this to myself.