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  1. #1 Will Religion as a whole start a Holy War to stay Alive?? 
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    Ok I've been noticing alot more people are starting to turn to Evilution(lol) as a means of creation, as Scientist prove more and more how thing Really were created.. But will Religeous group or Masses rise up in arms against the worldly government in a Holy War sort to say, If governments around the world started to back the scientist more and not give religeous groups and charities as much backing to help there cause.. Could this start a Holy War.. And how would Government's deal with people in there own countries already Not invador or missle's coming to there doors and tossing them on a cross in the name of Religion... Armies would turn on each other and stuff could really get out of control..

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    If such a thing happens then I think people like me who support both are toast. The peacemakers are the first casualties of war.


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    Some might, but why do you want to lump all religions together? Just worry about the ones that actually do the things you are worrying about.
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    Alot of religions are in General Beliefs the Same Thing.. They Mostly all promote being kind to the fellow man, trying to be generally as good as possible, and try to make the best out of yourself you can with the mean given to you by the Creator.. Some believe they are the center and that life evolves around them But they still beleive in being good and kind to all living things.. Basically since Pangea Broke up and we couldnt talk to each other anymore, we've come up with diffrent skin tones Languages, & beliefs. But we all started in the same place and all believed the same thing before we were seperated.. And I think until we Untite ALL Races together and have a Human Being with All racial traits in them we wont see the True Potential of the Human Race... :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    Alot of religions are in General Beliefs the Same Thing.. They Mostly all promote being kind to the fellow man, trying to be generally as good as possible...
    Well that's new... lolz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    Ok I've been noticing alot more people are starting to turn to Evilution(lol) as a means of creation, as Scientist prove more and more how thing Really were created.. But will Religeous group or Masses rise up in arms against the worldly government in a Holy War sort to say, If governments around the world started to back the scientist more and not give religeous groups and charities as much backing to help there cause.. Could this start a Holy War.. And how would Government's deal with people in there own countries already Not invador or missle's coming to there doors and tossing them on a cross in the name of Religion... Armies would turn on each other and stuff could really get out of control..

    What are your thoughts on this...
    The cults of the world would remain intact at any cost. Their primary drivers are their ability to successfully indoctrinate their children into the cult.

    The evidence of science means little to them as their ability to reason has long been eradicated due to methods and ideals of the indoctrination. They have already been taught that the universe was created by their god.
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    Always bring children into it ey Q? Always the point you make. Makes me wonder why you use that point more than any other.

    To the Original poster:

    A war, any war which either side has access to nuclear weapons, would be devestating. There are far more religious people on Earth than atheists. A LOT more. If there was a war started (which I would very much be against) started by the religious people. I would suspect that the atheists would lose. But in war, no one ever wins. And as Mitchell says, the first casualties in war are peacemakers.

    Ironic, that Jesus says that peacemakers shall be called children of God, and that Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Seems like dying to preserve peace results in a one way ticket to 'heaven'. Of course if you believe in heaven. If not, then if you can't do anything there is only one real way to stop them, if you want to.

    A: Rid of both sides.
    B: Run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    A war, any war which either side has access to nuclear weapons, would be devestating. There are far more religious people on Earth than atheists. A LOT more. If there was a war started (which I would very much be against) started by the religious people. I would suspect that the atheists would lose. But in war, no one ever wins. And as Mitchell says, the first casualties in war are peacemakers.
    I believe that everyone would lose. And I don't mind being the first to go, because I don't think that I would want to live in the hell on earth that would be created if the religious get their way in all things, especially as a result of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    Always bring children into it ey Q? Always the point you make. Makes me wonder why you use that point more than any other.

    To the Original poster:

    A war, any war which either side has access to nuclear weapons, would be devestating. There are far more religious people on Earth than atheists. A LOT more. If there was a war started (which I would very much be against) started by the religious people. I would suspect that the atheists would lose. But in war, no one ever wins. And as Mitchell says, the first casualties in war are peacemakers.

    Ironic, that Jesus says that peacemakers shall be called children of God, and that Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Seems like dying to preserve peace results in a one way ticket to 'heaven'. Of course if you believe in heaven. If not, then if you can't do anything there is only one real way to stop them, if you want to.

    A: Rid of both sides.
    B: Run.

    Fight or flight. After millions of years of evolution, nothing's changed.
    Why Atheists will loose?
    As far as I know there are far smarter Atheists than Theists(I'm not saying that
    there aren't smart Theists offcourse...).
    And when talking about advanced technologies; numbers have little to none
    impact, don't they?

    One more thing to consider: Which side will the all-so-many Angostics will join??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    One more thing to consider: Which side will the all-so-many Angostics will join??
    Lets ask Tom Cruise.. He knows everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    One more thing to consider: Which side will the all-so-many Angostics will join??
    Lets ask Tom Cruise.. He knows everything
    Ain't that Chuck Norris? :P
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    Agnostics will be like Sweden .

    But to Hanuka, atheists would 'lose' if we put it your way, because numbers mostly wins. But as I said, no one would win, there would be nothing to win. If at all winning actually means anything at all.
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    A scary thought is that this is actually quite possible as society progresses. I think that the "atheists" would "win", but I wouldn't use those specific choice of words.

    The "atheists" would probably be the international governments and policing organizations (The UN, Interpol, perhaps groups such as the G8 ) trying to maintain peace and order as the extremist groups attempted to spread their messages through violent acts such as terrorism which would ultimately progress to being a war. If you think about it, this war is already in its early stages. These government bodies would probably succeed, would "win", but winning would simply be struggling to stay above water as the religions continued recruiting into violent sects.

    This would make a good movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    Agnostics will be like Sweden .

    But to Hanuka, atheists would 'lose' if we put it your way, because numbers mostly wins. But as I said, no one would win, there would be nothing to win. If at all winning actually means anything at all.
    Oi, did ya forget the gr8 strategists of old?
    The ones that against all odds defeated wars with demoralising ratios like 1:10.
    They did it all by the use of their current technologies but mostly with their cunning ways.

    It's quite easy to win a war against all the odds if you know how to play yar cards right
    (well, not THAT easy)
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    it'd be like in the nazi deathcamps. christians putting atheists into deathcamps for the "final solution" to the atheist problem.
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    I think the question at hand is a good one, and that in my opinion it all depends on what countries the larger religions have control of. You technically need a military to have a full on war. You have to remember that most religions consider themselves the true form, as such they are in separation from one another. If in fact they decide to ally themselves it would actually go well with my theories on social formations.
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    Or do you mean in a terroristic sense.

    Unless you mean what I have declared "silent war" which would be a more formal war between theists and non-theists.







    Inequality causes movement towards the elimination of another; we are all a variation... in essence we do not equate... so in some small form or another there will always be movement towards the elimination of another... now if you factor in the build up of certain ideals, where there will be a common ground to oppose a far greater inequality than the fractional variation of a group formed out of the ideals; the variation will be negated for a time span. That time span will eventually dissolve... leaving the original group and that too will eventually dissolve, only to form again with new ideals; a cycle which repeats itself in different forms.
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