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  1. #1 WHY THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS NOT A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT. 
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    A: THE FACT:
    The speed of light is not a universal constant.
    A.Einstein and group had it measured as 3x10^8m/s which is so much

    okay as it was done within the Earth's boundaries. But universally,
    this figure is not so.


    B: THE EXPLANATION:
    WHY THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS NOT A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.


    [snip1: The Revelatorium: Chapter A 'Microcosm':
    ... The fourth dimensional frequencies of the background fields are optimized for the propagation of photons and neutrinos measured at the rate of 'C'. They are also optimized for an attraction rate of Gravity measured as 'G'. The 'C' and 'G' values as known are not an actual constant velocity and rate for the whole of Creation. Because of the particular accumulated background fields 'C' and 'G' are only the velocity and rate of attraction for the auric fields of planet Earth in Earth's particular Solar System, in Earth's particular Solar Sector, in Earth's particular Local Universe. ...
    endsnip1]

    That's it, were Earth to move into another solar system, C and G would re-tune to fit into that particular system's cosmic surroundings.
    Now it gets clearer to me that the speed of light is also a function a planetary's auric field-influence according to the exact locationing of the planet within the cosmic body arrangement.
    A while ago I had read something relating to the assumption of the speed of light (3x10^8m/s) being a universal constant This assumption had been spearheaded by the awakening scientists of the late 19thCentury and early 20thC, with A.Einstein being a large player in all this.

    Were I one of today's earthscientist, I would call these aetheric influences 'formular modifiers'.
    This and possibly other formular modifiers are 'once again' popping up and mainstream scientists just have to finally adopt them when modifying their once perfect but now flawing physical equations and earth experiments.
    These formular modifiers would bridge the metaphysical of higher dimensions(esp. the fourth dimension) and our physical plane existence (which we call the third dimension, which the Revelatorium clearly depicts as the first three octaves of the fourth dimension).

    Here is another quote within the same chapter that is related.
    [snip2:
    ... It has already been proved. Two Pioneer space probes launched in the late seventies are not as far out from Earth as they should be according to mathematics. Likewise the solar stream at the edge of the Solar system is not moving anywhere as fast as expected. It is because both have traveled in and out of the different respective net planetary auric fields of the various different planets, imparting different net affects upon their motion.

    The auric fields of the different planets, solar systems, solar sectors, and Local Universes all differ because their purposes all differ. Each different net medium is different and each net drift against the Even Pool is different. The different Creative Son/Daughters of each different Local Universe in particular radiate completely different frequencies for being completely different people with completely different creative agendas. ...
    endsnip2]

    That does it.
    Interestingly enough those two voyagers have also been used to study some of goings on in the heliosheath.
    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2....htm?list29945
    [snip]
    Sluggish solar wind: The solar wind in the heliosheath is slower than anyone expected. "The solar wind is supposed to slow down out there, just as the water in your sink slowed down to make the 'sluggish ring,'" says Stone, "but not this slow." Before Voyager 1 arrived, computer models predicted a wind speed of 200,000 to 300,000 mph. Voyager 1 measured only about 34,000 mph. "This means our computer models need to be refined."
    [/endsnip]
    Since I now have the answer different from my expected computer model, all that I would require would be to include formula modifiers to bridge the gap between 34000mph and 250000mph or something similar to it. Lightly, I would say.

    In otherwords mainstream sciences have big translations awaiting them before they start refining models and equations otherwise simpler answers can sometimes get exactly difficult because of mis-steps.

    Better proofs about light speed would also be possible, that is, if Bush is still preparing that mission to Mars. Let whoever prepares going there also take along science equipments (that measure the speed of light on earth as 3x10e+8m/s) to measure the speed of light on Mars rather than fighting between who should be the 1st man/woman to step on Mars. But that's a far-fetched shot because I still wonder, how many times have they walked on the moon, that is, if a human being has ever walked on the moon?

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    Light speed varies in these circumstances:

    1: Within a black hole
    2: In a differnt interstellar medium (different from minkowski space)
    3: Inbetween certain substances

    All of the above also are not actually effects of light itself, it is the motion and nature of other entities that enable us to pervieve an alternate speed of light. For instance a black hole drags spacetime and hence moving light in that appears to maove FTL. Likewise if the dragging occurs in the opposite direction, STL. Some spaces in space can effect the speed of light and certain substances leads to slower percived light speed, which creates something called Tscherenkov radiation.

    It DOES NOT vary AT ALL other than that above and other areas we have yet to explain yet alone discover.

    It is not 3x10^8m/s, never ever ever ever ever, round it up, EVER.
    2.99792458x10^8m/sec/sec.

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    The Revelatorium:

    "The Revelatorium, details how humans are not limited by their physical form and therefore what your Christ responsibilities are to the Creation.

    When The Revelatorium appears to be in conflict with existing texts, you need to read the Revelatorium all the way through before deciding which one is to be believed"

    Pseudoscience.
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    This reminds me of the argument in which potholes are uniquely designed to fit puddles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinewarrio
    The Revelatorium:

    "The Revelatorium, details how humans are not limited by their physical form and therefore what your Christ responsibilities are to the Creation.

    When The Revelatorium appears to be in conflict with existing texts, you need to read the Revelatorium all the way through before deciding which one is to be believed"

    Pseudoscience.
    What is revelatorium? I don't see why I should look at if before I know what it is.
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    svillmer you have to be more inquisitive! That's what science is all about! The revelatorium IMO is scary!
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  8. #7 LIGHT SPEED DOES NOT VARY. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie
    svillmer you have to be more inquisitive! That's what science is all about! The revelatorium IMO is scary!
    Yes inquisitive is what scientists are well known of.
    'Not know the mysteries' is more scary than the Revelatorium whose main reason is to sweep out all illusion we have ammased over time in science and religion and bringing in truth out in the open for all to either catch on or stay asleep.
    And 'as it says' do not let the religious overtones throw you off. The Revelatorium is anything but a religious tome.
    For the information contained in the book, God is EXACTLY 50% science + 50% religion, absolute. One without the other is illusion full of mysteries which is in similarity to a battery cell. It has both ends, the +ve(science) and the -ve(religion). Current only flows when the two ends are connected to the load (the consciousness involved).

    I would, if you may, invite you to a rather more interesting chapter http://www.revelatorium.com/Chapt34.htm (but the book emphasises reading it all through out as it flows from chapter to chapter).
    In there quoted is the following:

    Beyond the basic mechanics of the fourth dimension, the flavoring of the 'Laws of Physics' will vary from each local to the next and can even change from time to time within a given local according to the evolutionary blueprint for the local. The quantifications are already starting to change a measured amount within the solar system of Earth, which has been moving into an area of higher ambient background energies relative to the Local Universe in its path around the galaxy for over forty years now.
    And this is the main reason upon which I hinge on the fact that the speed of light MOST DEFINITELY varies. It is not dependent upon 'perception'. The earlier scientists's (Einstein and group) consideration of the basis upon which to measure that speed was that thing they called 'Vacuum'. And today everyone is very much aware that space and interstellar space is not merely Vacuum but media. And media affects light properties. So all we can think of is the speed of light relative to planet earth. And this is where the word 'perception' and 'percieved light' can only work..that is..in relation to the observer on earth. The observer on Mars will likewise measure it differently. Certainly it might be close to 3x10^8 m/s or completely different but definitely not 2.99792458x10^8m/sec/sec (@svwillmer, thanks) in the base 10 counting system.

    As I read farther down into the chapter, http://www.revelatorium.com/Chapt33.htm, I found this quoted is as follows:
    Scientists do not acknowledge the presence of the background fields. Because they consider the speed of light to be a constant like a mechanical effect, they have a completely misconstrued view of Creation. Their cosmic calculations for the universe as a whole do not add up as they are based on the value parameters for the local around Earth only.
    These background fields in other previous chapters of the book are analogous to what some 19/20thC scientist researchers terms as etheric/aetheric which was a good lead. For many, it's properties scare the hell out of the presently established laws of physics.

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    In my opinion gravity would be more of a reliable constant, if only we could know for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinewarrio
    The Revelatorium:

    "The Revelatorium, details how humans are not limited by their physical form and therefore what your Christ responsibilities are to the Creation.

    When The Revelatorium appears to be in conflict with existing texts, you need to read the Revelatorium all the way through before deciding which one is to be believed"

    Pseudoscience.
    What is revelatorium? I don't see why I should look at if before I know what it is.
    Scaredy cat! :P

    Actually, I'd be interested in knowing if the notions on there are in accord with your own understanding of Christianity at all...
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  11. #10 Re: WHY THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS NOT A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meta.A
    A: THE FACT:
    The speed of light is not a universal constant.
    A.Einstein and group had it measured as 3x10^8m/s which is so much

    okay as it was done within the Earth's boundaries. But universally,
    this figure is not so.


    B: THE EXPLANATION:
    WHY THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS NOT A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.


    [snip1: The Revelatorium: Chapter A 'Microcosm':
    ... The fourth dimensional frequencies of the background fields are optimized for the propagation of photons and neutrinos measured at the rate of 'C'. They are also optimized for an attraction rate of Gravity measured as 'G'. The 'C' and 'G' values as known are not an actual constant velocity and rate for the whole of Creation. Because of the particular accumulated background fields 'C' and 'G' are only the velocity and rate of attraction for the auric fields of planet Earth in Earth's particular Solar System, in Earth's particular Solar Sector, in Earth's particular Local Universe. ...
    endsnip1]

    That's it, were Earth to move into another solar system, C and G would re-tune to fit into that particular system's cosmic surroundings.
    Now it gets clearer to me that the speed of light is also a function a planetary's auric field-influence according to the exact locationing of the planet within the cosmic body arrangement.
    A while ago I had read something relating to the assumption of the speed of light (3x10^8m/s) being a universal constant This assumption had been spearheaded by the awakening scientists of the late 19thCentury and early 20thC, with A.Einstein being a large player in all this.
    This still sounds similar to what Einstein's Relativity predicts. If Earth moved into another solar system all of our clocks would also change speed, and we'd still observe light to move the same distance in the amount of time our clocks measured.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but light is always *observed* to move at C. That doesn't mean it always moves at C according to our clock right now, here on Earth. But, any light that reaches us will be moving at that speed when it reaches us.



    Were I one of today's earthscientist, I would call these aetheric influences 'formular modifiers'.
    This and possibly other formular modifiers are 'once again' popping up and mainstream scientists just have to finally adopt them when modifying their once perfect but now flawing physical equations and earth experiments.
    These formular modifiers would bridge the metaphysical of higher dimensions(esp. the fourth dimension) and our physical plane existence (which we call the third dimension, which the Revelatorium clearly depicts as the first three octaves of the fourth dimension).

    Here is another quote within the same chapter that is related.
    [snip2:
    ... It has already been proved. Two Pioneer space probes launched in the late seventies are not as far out from Earth as they should be according to mathematics. Likewise the solar stream at the edge of the Solar system is not moving anywhere as fast as expected. It is because both have traveled in and out of the different respective net planetary auric fields of the various different planets, imparting different net affects upon their motion.

    The auric fields of the different planets, solar systems, solar sectors, and Local Universes all differ because their purposes all differ. Each different net medium is different and each net drift against the Even Pool is different. The different Creative Son/Daughters of each different Local Universe in particular radiate completely different frequencies for being completely different people with completely different creative agendas. ...
    endsnip2]

    That does it.
    Interestingly enough those two voyagers have also been used to study some of goings on in the heliosheath.
    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2....htm?list29945
    [snip]
    Sluggish solar wind: The solar wind in the heliosheath is slower than anyone expected. "The solar wind is supposed to slow down out there, just as the water in your sink slowed down to make the 'sluggish ring,'" says Stone, "but not this slow." Before Voyager 1 arrived, computer models predicted a wind speed of 200,000 to 300,000 mph. Voyager 1 measured only about 34,000 mph. "This means our computer models need to be refined."
    [/endsnip]
    Since I now have the answer different from my expected computer model, all that I would require would be to include formula modifiers to bridge the gap between 34000mph and 250000mph or something similar to it. Lightly, I would say.

    In otherwords mainstream sciences have big translations awaiting them before they start refining models and equations otherwise simpler answers can sometimes get exactly difficult because of mis-steps.

    Better proofs about light speed would also be possible, that is, if Bush is still preparing that mission to Mars. Let whoever prepares going there also take along science equipments (that measure the speed of light on earth as 3x10e+8m/s) to measure the speed of light on Mars rather than fighting between who should be the 1st man/woman to step on Mars. But that's a far-fetched shot because I still wonder, how many times have they walked on the moon, that is, if a human being has ever walked on the moon?

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    What the rest of this tells me is that, for some purposes, Relativity may need to be developed further than it is, or modified. It works perfectly inside our solar system (or at least our own area of the solar system), but there's no saying it won't break down if factors were to change that have always been constant in our observations so far.
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