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    I'll put these thoughts here as to not totally embarass myself. Remember this is a no-flame zone.

    Ever get the feeling that matter and spacetime aren't supposed to mix? or if they even mix at all? Does each belong in a separate universe? Is one invading the other's universe?

    Could it be that matter once(or many times) fell through a crack between universes and has been in constant turmoil with spacetime ever since? If the two don't mix then is matter actually existing in a place where spacetime is absent. I mean spacetime might be repelled by matter and so it compresses itself at the boundary where contact is made between the two.

    I was thinking of the 2D rubber mat analogy(gravity?) the other day. It can't be anything like that obviously. In my mind I tried to picture an object that is feeling the same pressure on every angstrom of its surface. All I could imagine were a bunch of lines, like rays leaving the sun only in reverse, converging and being the most concentrated at the surface of the object. It got me thinking again, remember I'm no cosmologist or anything, that the compression(concentration) of spacetime would gradually lessen as the rays moved outward and away from the object. I thought this might simulate the so-called stretching effect of spacetime.

    Then I thought what if we are dealing with a mixture of 2 universes here. One has accidentally crossed paths with the other. Hey, this stuff had to come from somewhere.


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    You're suggesting that the universe we know might be a byproduct of the interaction between two universes of matter and spacetime?

    Hmm. Interesting idea, but what would the alternative be? What would a realm consisting entirely of just spacetime look like? What would a realm consisting entirely of matter, without time or space, look like?

    It has some merit, if, like a pseudo quantum physics or string-theory aspect, we assume that matter exists in one realm and spacetime exists in another, like the intersecting planes of the various dimensions. Each having their own systems, yet only having existence and effect in the relationship to another.

    Then again, matter is just an illusion, space probably doesn't even exist, and time is merely a conceptual representation of change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Ever get the feeling that matter and spacetime aren't supposed to mix? or if they even mix at all? Does each belong in a separate universe? Is one invading the other's universe? .....

    Your idea is interesting.

    Two spaces as one, yet seperate, mixing somehow with one another?
    Does a theory of everything therefore need to be purely theoretical and only account for the known laws and forces in handling the improbability of fortune telling?

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    Perhaps there's more than two spaces?

    Maybe the spaces are infinite?
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    I can agree to the thought of this theory. Although, I still think a greater force must be in place to make all of this happen. Not to mention, I firmly believe everything even if these two types of universes are indeed spacetime and matter must be inside of something. Even if seperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightingbird
    I can agree to the thought of this theory. Although, I still think a greater force must be in place to make all of this happen. Not to mention, I firmly believe everything even if these two types of universes are indeed spacetime and matter must be inside of something. Even if seperate.
    Make no mistake, this is not a theory of mine, only thoughts. Sometimes I think about how intoxicatingly complex things are when I am suddenly confronted with a sobering reminder of how simple something might really be.
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