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  1. #1 Unknown ancient geometry 
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    Is this symbol the COMPLETE ancient flower of life? How does it connect to todays science? I would appreciate any opinions. http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/


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    I don't see any math or science here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370
    I don't see any math or science here.
    The COMPLETE ancient flower of life contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids. Not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation itself. I think that has something to do with mathematics!?
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    platonic solids is not science, or at the very least very outdated science
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    While this does have mostly to do with religion, I think it does have mathematical properties.

    Does it not, to you, resemble a Fractal?
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    The mere fact that it is a geometrical shape does not make it science. I suppose somebody could study the properties of the Flower of Life and develop hypotheses, theorems, proofs, etc. But all I see is religious stuff.
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    It looks so cool! But what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawngoldw
    It looks so cool! But what is it?
    The COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,the collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it). The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original fol(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. (use the hand drawn flower) 4love and light 2all x The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion.
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    The incomplete fol is found all over the ancient world. The oldest and original incomplete fol is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. The osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can or wont give a date for the flower. Neither will they explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. Any opinions? I believe the flower has been delibarately ignored so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden. http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/gar.../osireion.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/library/fotg/c45-5.htm
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    You're referring to the idea of geometrical shapes being deciphered into a mathematical language that is relevant to physics, to space-time, right?

    Graphs and charts represent a symbolic visual account for a feature of numerical change of variables according to set parameters that bind the nature of the graph-chart. Some charts are simple using only a flat plane, like a pie-chart, and some charts are complex requiring the use of all three axes of space-time (x-y-z), representing how points change through that 3-dimensional axis. Basically, Graphs and charts are diagrams representing numerical relationships in visual terms. The term “graph” is usually reserved for a diagram showing the relationship of two variable quantities, each measured along one of a pair of lines called axes, whereas charts can be of many different types.

    The simplest graphs give a visual indication of a series of changing values, and thus graphs are used to show trends. Another use of graphs is in the representation, and sometimes the solution, of mathematical equations. Graphs also provide a valuable resource for solving simultaneous equations, solving equation trends. Moreover, instead of solving two related equations mathematically, it is often possible to graph the two equations to find their point of intersection. The simple mathematical uses of graphs can be extended to cover very complex equations. Many physical laws have been discovered by analysis of the raw data produced by experiment when they were plotted on graphs. The field of mathematics called calculus is relevant to the study of graphs. It is concerned with such things as calculating the gradient, or slope, of a line plotted on a graph from the equation defining that line. The gradient of a curve can reveal important information. The steeper the curve, the more rapidly the quantity shown is varying. Thus, in a graph of numbers of cases of infectious disease against time, the steeper the curve, the more rapidly the disease is spreading, and the greater the cause for alarm. Graphs need not always have two axes at right angles. For instance, in special purposes, the axes may be inclined at an angle to one another, or may even be curved. There may not even be two axes.

    In summary, graphs aim to explain and predict defined systems of interest that aim to generate a type of MAP of that defined system of inquiry………….a type of picture of how values changes in relation to one another, generally as a change through time.

    What is being presented here it seems, with your interest, and a good one, in geometry, in ancient symbols, is if contemporary science aims to construct such a MAP of reality.

    Indeed, science AIMS to generate graphs, graphs that explain space-time. But why does science fail to construct such graphs that account for a more anciently, presumed, science and mathema5tics of space-time, of space-time itself? Because contemporary science does not know how to begin constructing the framework of that graph, the axes, and the time coordinates. Science has not been able to account properly for the basic variables and tracks of space and time for science to properly construct a graph framework to then use to construct space-time upon…………and have represented as a picture.

    I have found a theory where that problem is solved. That problem of how to construct “what” graph is solved in first establishing what the basic formwork of space and time is (the lines, the points, and so on), to then CREATE that graph that pictures reality for what it is, ideally. The problem is solved by first addressing what a “number” is, and how numbers can relate to one another. Basically, graphs require numbers to be related to one another. The theory I am proposing to you establishes how numbers relate to one another. Ideally, numbers relate to one another in a manner that highlights what the ideal graph system of axes is for us to employ to then explain the grander features of space and time. If you're interested, the theory is available at the linked website below.

    Take a look at the eye of ra: is it simple airflow symbolic dynamics of sustained winged flight..........is that not a symbolic graph of a physical reality, of something held in the sky?
    Does a theory of everything therefore need to be purely theoretical and only account for the known laws and forces in handling the improbability of fortune telling?

    the www feature below can explain it better.
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    Do those crop circles get measured (questionmark). They have messages.

    I deciphered one (the circle with the half-moon like symbol in the middle):

    it may mean: "Start form the negative and you will encounter the positive

    in two ways."

    I got this from the binary numbers on the rim. The four symbols come

    from cyclic permutations of the numbers 21, 27, 14, 21.
    It also matters what isn't there - Tao Te Ching interpreted.
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    I don't know.

    You know..........

    Is there a question "relevant" to your "time of day"........."like I don'nt have one"......................why don't I just go "camping"............like your "question"??????????

    ......what "if" some persson who had a way of using "I"........."helped"..........

    ?????
    Does a theory of everything therefore need to be purely theoretical and only account for the known laws and forces in handling the improbability of fortune telling?

    the www feature below can explain it better.
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    streamSystems: are you implying I read something in nonsense? That diagram is too well worked out to be nonsense.
    It also matters what isn't there - Tao Te Ching interpreted.
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    Sorry andy, I'm moving this to pseudoscience. It has all the hallmarks. No reason an intersting discussion can't be continued there, however.
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    Ophiolite, I take issue with your move. A more appropriate move would be one to philosophy, since it has many philosophical aspects rather than scientific or mathematical ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by talanum1
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    Do those crop circles get measured (questionmark). They have messages.

    I deciphered one (the circle with the half-moon like symbol in the middle):

    it may mean: "Start form the negative and you will encounter the positive

    in two ways."

    I got this from the binary numbers on the rim. The four symbols come

    from cyclic permutations of the numbers 21, 27, 14, 21.
    That's like, precisely what farmer john would say. Don't you think so guys, Jeremy, Ophiolite?
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    Upon rereading posts I missed...screw it, it is pseudoscience. It DID have philosophical value until people started posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    Upon rereading posts I missed...screw it, it is pseudoscience. It DID have philosophical value until people started posting.
    Yeah; "Thou are to me like a cropcircle; one year of lie fallow gives two good years"
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    Very funny Pseudoscience.
    It also matters what isn't there - Tao Te Ching interpreted.
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    I think what I was saying, and it was a little rushed, was that the crop circles, and any associated geometry, well, to try to catch one of those things you need to go camping in a wheat field, or something, right?

    If I can be clearer now though, there is much poetry in the crop circles, the "bending like a reed" philosophy, the "mason geometry".............yet ancient geometry, it was really a "language" much like our alphabet that superimposed geometrical shapes onto one another, and linked them to one another, conveying a message...........it was a language..........still is, to some.

    It is a philosophy..........I agree.............an ancient one though.

    I mean, they used geometrical shapes to explain phenomena going on around them.........it is a language.........for their time, it was true.........if it explained an eternal time, maybe we should get more serious about it.
    Does a theory of everything therefore need to be purely theoretical and only account for the known laws and forces in handling the improbability of fortune telling?

    the www feature below can explain it better.
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    Unlike other mandala,the complete ancient flower of life has no design,measurement or straight lines. The complete flower grows organically from the first circle onwards,it draws itself. This is one of the reasons why the flower is called the creation mandala. I forgot to add...... the flower should be contemplated in darkness,only have the computer on,no lights.
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    Is it more than a coincidence that the vortex lattice mirrors the complete flower of life? http://jilawww.colorado.edu/research/modelsystems.html
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    It seems that the ancients had a different approach to both mathematics and science itself.
    I see it as being more of an analogue approach than a digital one, if you will. They preferred to use shapes instead of numbers, and look for their patterns in geometry instead of sequences.

    There's a lot of debate as to how great or small their accomplishments were, and in all it appears they were pretty secretive about their findings, wanting to keep it all in their guilds instead of allowing it to be absorbed by the general population.

    For this reason, you see a lot of mummery, and intentional disinformation in many ancient writings on "magic" (where I'm assuming the real magic was their knowlege of technologies the rest of the world wasn't going to get for a great many generations to come)
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    You may be interested to know,someone`s taken notice of my discovery. http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm
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    If you get time,watch this video. I believe Nassim is speaking about the complete flower of life,without realising it. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by andymonk
    If you get time,watch this video. I believe Nassim is speaking about the complete flower of life,without realising it. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
    For whatever reason,google have pulled nassim`s new video. You can find an older version here. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
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    I believe i have discovered the earths grid,which is based on the complete flower of life. If you look at the attached image,you will see a map of the island of sanday,which is a part of the orkney islands. I believe this island is one of the starting points of the worlds grid. As you can see at the NE of the island,there just happens to be a light house positioned on a place called start point. I dont have the equipment to post the grid,but if you would like to draw it? First you will require an ordnance survey map(scale 1;25000). Second...... draw a circle with a radius of 2.575miles(5000megalithic yards). Thirdly.....position this circle so the arc runs from start point along scuthvie bay to tofts ness. 4....where the arc cuts through start point,place the point of the compass and draw another circle,creating a vesica piscis. 5.... continue to draw the flower of life. The flower will spiral out,running through all ancient sites,standing stones,cathedrals,churches etc. You will see as you go along,all ancient sites lie at the centre of six points. I look forward to your feedback. x http://homepages.compuserve.de/WFKSc.../miniSANDY.jpg
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    I believe the G of freemasonry symbolises the complete flower of life. http://www.stonepages.com/forum/inde...pe=post&id=363
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    Quote Originally Posted by andymonk
    I believe the G of freemasonry symbolises the complete flower of life. http://www.stonepages.com/forum/inde...pe=post&id=363
    If you cant see the image.....look here...its been added to this article. http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm
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    At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to trace out any known written alphabet.
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    For me, the real trip is wondering what technologies might have existed before the end of the last ice age, when a lot of land that's underwater now used to be above water. Before the "flood", if you will.

    It's not like we're going to get good archaeology on the cities that ended up under water, and if there was any kind of society back then, most of it would have been in the low lands, where it was warmer.
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    Oh stop argueing you lot or i'll bang your heads together :wink:

    It looks great whatever it is!

    Reminds me of one of those elastic band balls we used to make at school!
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    I showed my father this image today. When he saw it,he nearly fell off his chair. He told me that the pattern in the centre circle is found in the middle of all masonic temple ceilings(Well.......all the masonic temples he has visited in his 40 years as a freemason). Maybe we`re being told something. Does anybody have an opinion on crop circles? http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/imag...p%20circle.jpg
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