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  1. #1 Would an object the size of Jupiter cause gravitational affects upon earth 40 billion miles away? 
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    Would an object the size of Jupiter cause gravitational affects upon earth 40 billion miles away?


    I have much more to respond to this post. I just want to know if some scientist out there could answer this question or a very knowledgeable person.


    Jupiter's orbital speed is about 30k mph that is how I figured out how far away this object is if it were headed to earth from the 1983 news clipping. If so, it would be about 40 billion miles away by today at that rate of speed.




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    Think about it if Betelgeuse has already blown up then the light waves would take 700 years (if it already blew) to get here so in that vain, maybe we are about to see a bright flash, because gravity waves just hit us?


    Gravitational waves are caused by calamitous events in the Universe. Neutron stars that finally merge after circling each other for a long time can create them, and so can two black holes that collide with each other. But sometimes there's a burst of gravitational waves that doesn't have a clear cause.

    One such burst was detected by LIGO/VIRGO on January 14, and it came from the same region of sky that hosts the star Betelgeuse. Yeah, Betelgeuse, aka Alpha Orionis. The star that has been exhibiting some dimming behaviour recently, and is expected to go supernova at some point in the future.


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    Maybe the Jupiter sized planet hit a speed bump like a asteroid and then bang gravitational wave.
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    This post is related to a 40 billion mile possible distance of a Jupiter sized planet. However I thought it needed its own thread. What it shows is a cycle of huge warming spikes every 3600 years.


    I have calculated through temperature rate of change is when the Rogue Planet begins its exit. We are headed for turbulent weather change but it is part of a recurring event every 3600 years. It is my guess that the rogue planet nears us enough to leave the planet intact because its still here. Yet many will die is my guess. Also all of the natural deadly events like earthquakes, hurricanes and volcanoes will increase in frequency and explosive scales of higher levels.


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    There is no limit on distance for gravitational effect. However the inverse square law makes the effect of a Jupiter size planet that far away almost impossible to measure.
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    The Velikovsky mention doesn't bode well for this thread - moved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomeoneil View Post
    No, he didn't. Velivovsky displayed a deep ignorance on his part in terms of how bodies actually move in the Solar system and their effects on each other. Example: he has a close pass by Venus stopping the Earth's rotation in order to explain the passage in the Bible of the Sun stopping in the Sky. The only type of interaction between Earth and Venus that could produce this result would be tidal braking. Even with Venus being extremely close, this would have taken years to accomplish, with Venus essentially "hovering" near the Earth the whole time. This would have also created huge ocean tides which would have swept the surface of the Earth clean. In addition, the vast majority of energy lost via tidal braking goes into producing heat. The Earth would have heated up to the point where the oceans would have boiled away, at the very least. So not only was a close passage of Venus capable of producing the desired effect on the Earth's rotation, even if it vould had, it would have left the Earth a lifeless planet.

    And once the rotation has stopped, something would have had to start it up again, and that something would have had given the Earth exactly the same amount of spin as it had in the first place. So even if we ignore everything above, the chances of a second event being able to give the Earth back the exact same amount of rotation as it started, are basically impossibly low.

    In another part he tries to explain "manna falling from Heaven" as being due another close passage. Here, he confuses Hydrocarbons with Carbohydrates. The first is made of just hydrogen and carbon atoms, examples are propane and butane, the second also includes oxygen, usually with a 2 to one ratio of hydrogen to oxygen, as in water ( and thus the "hydrate" in the name.). Carbohydrates include sugars and cellulose. While Hydrocarbons can be found in comets, not so in the case for carbohydrates. And there is no way for those hydrocarbons to become carbohydrates just by drifting through the atmosphere.

    Velivovsky may have had a fertile imagination, but he knew next to nothing about the actual science involved.
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    Worlds in Collision is a great book, but it lacks evidence and Velikovsky had a thing about 1500 BC.

    Not only was a "comet" ejected from Jupiter to become the planet Venus but in his book Peoples of the Sea he explains that 'The changing climate cycle was also a factor in the movements of these peoples. The great sea area was really drying out starting about 1500 BC and this caused a lot of problems for these peoples.' (quote from review of book).

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    Velikovsky was an ocean-going crank.
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    Worlds in Collision was published in 1950, as was The Nature of the Universe by Fred Hoyle.
    One of these is entertaining fiction while the other is entertaining fact.
    You know which one.
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