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  1. #1 Did Time have a start? 
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    If we assume time is infinite, then there are only two possible models of the origin of the universe:



    1. ‘Can get something from nothing’, IE matter is created naturally. With infinite time, matter density would be infinite. So this is impossible.
    2. ‘Can’t get something from nothing’, IE matter has always existed. Meaning matter had no temporal start. So this is impossible too*



    So that exhausts the possibility space; time must have a start?






    * A more detailed proof by contradiction:



    1. Assume a particle does not have a (temporal) start point
    2. If the particle does not have a start, then it cannot have a ‘next to start’ (because that would qualify as a start and [1] says that it does not have a start)
    3. So particle does not have a next to start (by Modus Ponens on [1] and [2]).
    4. etc… for start+2, start+3…
    5. Implies particle does not have middle
    6. etc… unto start+∞
    7. Implies particle does not have a (temporal) end
    8. Implies particle never existed




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    The red shifts and blue shifts of galaxies indicate a fraction of time in which this time frame is just regulated to this dimension, thus asserted a fraction of the infinite. This dimension alone is regulated by time like anything else in it. It has a start, mid-point and end. The infinite realm exists outside of our present perception.

    Some humans have a need to measure everything for it comes from a materialist perspective, a striving for this indwells discontentment. The infinite realm is non materialistic associated with bliss and contentment which investigates further explorations of passions which are achieved through due diligence. It is not correct for me to say that in this dimension from where I type that all humans are helplessly controlled by their drives for materialism and in not finding their passion.

    The universe kicked off from the essence of the Infinite realm. This matrix we are in is just a learning zone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomeoneil View Post
    The red shifts and blue shifts of galaxies indicate a fraction of time in which this time frame is just regulated to this dimension, thus asserted a fraction of the infinite. This dimension alone is regulated by time like anything else in it. It has a start, mid-point and end. The infinite realm exists outside of our present perception.

    Some humans have a need to measure everything for it comes from a materialist perspective, a striving for this indwells discontentment. The infinite realm is non materialistic associated with bliss and contentment which investigates further explorations of passions which are achieved through due diligence. It is not correct for me to say that in this dimension from where I type that all humans are helplessly controlled by their drives for materialism and in not finding their passion.

    The universe kicked off from the essence of the Infinite realm. This matrix we are in is just a learning zone.
    Stop posting crap.
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