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  1. #1 Don't Know Whether to Laugh or Cry... 
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    Just Wow!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-46778879

    Say what you like about Trump's science denial, he has nothing on these guys!

    Reminded me of these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U


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    Already saw that in my news feed this morning. Apparently other Indian scientists have disavowed the crank-speech.
    It seems to me that since time immemorial, all human endeavor and society is poop and diamonds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Just Wow!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-46778879

    Say what you like about Trump's science denial, he has nothing on these guys!

    Reminded me of these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U
    I wish I was surprised. I've noticed, over the last few years the appearance of a number of Indian nationalist cranks, on science forums. It's all of a piece with the science denial now on the rise in Nationalist governments in the USA, Italy and elsewhere. But depressing, I grant you.
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    From the article:
    Another scientist from a university in the southern state of Tamil Nadu told conference attendees that Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein were both wrong and that gravitational waves should be renamed "Narendra Modi Waves".
    So their rejection of relativity has the same motive as the denial of evolution and global warming: ideology.
    Typically people who deny relativity and/or quantum physics do so not because of ideology but because the concepts seem too weird and alien to them, so they believe it must be wrong.
    "A 4 degree Celsius warmer world can, and must be, avoided"
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    see the thread Donít Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry... started by PhDemon under Pseudoscience
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Merge this thread into the one by PhDemon...
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    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anticorncob28 View Post
    From the article:
    Another scientist from a university in the southern state of Tamil Nadu told conference attendees that Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein were both wrong and that gravitational waves should be renamed "Narendra Modi Waves".
    So their rejection of relativity has the same motive as the denial of evolution and global warming: ideology.
    Typically people who deny relativity and/or quantum physics do so not because of ideology but because the concepts seem too weird and alien to them, so they believe it must be wrong.
    Or, historically at least, because it is "Jewish physics": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik. ....ideology again.

    One suspects an undercurrent of anti-intellectualism behind both: I don't understand it and I resent people telling me I'm too stupid/ignorant to do so....so it must be wrong.
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    https://www.space.com/41657-india-wi...s-in-2022.html

    If Newton and Einstein are wrong and if India carry out this plan the mathematics will be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Just Wow!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-46778879

    Say what you like about Trump's science denial, he has nothing on these guys!

    Reminded me of these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U
    Can the state deny the claimants access to modern medicine & its associated technology? I mean, they aren't hypocrites are they? Trying to think if astrology would have helped detect or treat my recent bout with prostate cancer. Probably no side effect other than early death. Wasn't given that choice.
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    I feel like we've encountered these nutters here before.
    "For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled." Hunter S Thompson

    "It is easy to kill someone with a slash of a sword. It is hard to be impossible for others to cut down"
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    We have, they seem to pop up everythree months or so saying "hindu religion got it right millennia ago!!" And refuse to listen to any logic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    We have, they seem to pop up everythree months or so saying "hindu religion got it right millennia ago!!" And refuse to listen to any logic
    I always used to figure that the influx of Indian cranks was due to the site owner and possible advertising in India by him.
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    Don’t forget the spectacular modern knowledge that’s been in the Koran for however many hundred years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Don’t forget the spectacular modern knowledge that’s been in the Koran for however many hundred years!
    All we're missing are some Jehovah's Witnesses who think the Earth is billions years old and that the Bible describes the Big Bang, yet humans have only been around for 6,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Trying to think if astrology would have helped detect or treat my recent bout with prostate cancer. Probably no side effect other than early death. Wasn't given that choice.
    The answer is out there. Get a reading today.

    https://www.astro.com/astrology/iam_article170620_e.htm

    Saturn, Venus...maybe, but what's poor old Pluto got to do with this?
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    These are apparently the planes mentioned in Hinduism.
    "The Pushpaka Vimana that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravana; that aerial and excellent Vimana going everywhere at will ... that chariot resembling a bright cloud in the sky ... and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent chariot at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere.

    But I think we can go even further back to the creation myth from Scientology where planes like DC-8's arrived on earth 75 million years ago.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...d-scientology/

    I detect a relation between the beginning of Scientology and the DC-8, from the 1950's.
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