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    Big bang, evolution, four oceans, Dark matter, multiplicity of star systems e.t.c, these things Buddha already knew 2500 years ago, these things are mentioned in Pali Tipitaka. Modern science should pay more attention to Buddhism...


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    Well since you the expert.

    Please post some direct quotes that show any depth of knowledge and show that the knowledge was obtained by some empirical means--not just wild ass guess that if you use a bad translation or twist your mouth in the right position might coincidently arrive at a modern favored hypothesis.

    I await a compelling response that even more convincing than my belief that Robert Southey being an inspired scientist well before his time because he identified boys as made partially from puppy dog tails..and surely modern science has shown them to be at least 80 or so percent DNA compatible.


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    Well since you the expert.

    Please post some direct quotes that show any depth of knowledge and show that the knowledge was obtained by some empirical means--not just wild ass guess that if you use a bad translation or twist your mouth in the right position might coincidently arrive at a modern favored hypothesis.

    I await a compelling response that even more convincing than my belief that Robert Southey being an inspired scientist well before his time because he identified boys as made partially from puppy dog tails..and surely modern science has shown them to be at least 80 or so percent DNA compatible.
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    What I meant I meant, that material devices is not the only way to research anything, your mind is also and the way you can train your mind is not only obvious ways of training, but through cultivation of other qualities of mind such as concentration or mindfulness, for example as much you concentrate your mind on breathing or any other object, so more your concentration become stronger and you can penetrate knowledgy by your mind, it obvious because similar things Buddha did realize through power of his mind, he realized in suttas that world is expanding and after it finish expand it goes back to reversive way to the small beginning point, after it is reached this poing, it is again starting expansion, as for dark matter he did mentioned that between the world there is exist darkness. As for byology he did mention not only obvious biology but for example preorganic life. For example he did tell that first non-material being were eating "sweet earth" it is quite similar to modern theory, that first organic life appeared through the co-reaction or co-contact of some sort of sugar such as ribose or glucose, so as much they were eating this they became more material, and after this buddha did mention first plants were something similar to mushrooms, it is also quite similar to moderт science, because we know that first plants were multiplied by spores. And later these beings he tell go through evolution progress into human beings, but also sometimes these being get through evolution process into inferior level, what is also correspond to modern science, because it is not necessary for beings to progress only to developed mind level, sometimes they can progress to size, strength or speed. Also buddha did mentioned that here many worlds not only our world, he mentioned tenthousandfold world system. He also mentioned in suttas that here four oceans 2500 years ago it is also quite impressive. Finally it was recently proved that there is an analytical solution to the Maxwell equation that differs from the usual stationary electromagnetic wave, that is, the two most typical solutions that exist are the propagation of electromagnetic energy along the beam or from the center, respectively, a plane and spherical electromagnetic wave, and here it was found that under certain very exotic conditions, an electromagnetic wave can spin on the spot, this gives us something that, as it is not strange, field structures are capable of creatures To separate from matter, science thus took one step, in the direction that intangible beings have ceased to be anti-scientific delusions and have become a completely possible phenomenon of nature
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    The subforum is about the science of religion, such as the empirical study of how modern folks go to great contortions to make their pile of bronze aged mythologies seem like science such as you've done. Move to pseudo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kheminda View Post
    Big bang, evolution, four oceans, Dark matter, multiplicity of star systems e.t.c, these things Buddha already knew 2500 years ago, these things are mentioned in Pali Tipitaka. Modern science should pay more attention to Buddhism...
    I live and practice in a Theravadan monastery, and self-study physics at the same time; if you don‘t mind me saying so, I disagree with your statements. I do not see any evidence that the Suttas contain any special knowledge about modern physics; of course you can interpret some sections that way, but that is only your own interpretation, and holds true for all other religious texts as well. You can read anything into any text by means of the appropriate interpretation; that is not evidence that the historical Buddha had special knowledge about modern science. He didn’t, he was just a wandering ascetic and spiritual teacher, and altogether very human.

    The other thing of course is that modelling and explaining the external world was not what the Buddha set out to do at all. Buddhism is about addressing dukkha within the human condition, which is quite a distinct endeavour from gaining intellectual knowledge about the dynamics of matter and energy. There are some overlaps of course, but they are still not the same things. Knowing about dark matter isn’t going to help you with your dukkha.

    That being said, of course there are strong parallels between Buddhist teachings, and modern physics; for example, you can find aniccā at play in the fact that all the fundamental laws of physics are differential equations, and you can find anattā in the violation of Bell’s inequalities, i.e. the absence of realism. And so on. But this is just a recognition of basic characteristics of the world, nothing more.

    Buddhism was not intended to be a physics/scientific discipline in the modern sense of the words. The historical Buddha himself was careful to largely avoid metaphysical speculations, those were added on only later by other scholars and disciples (such as in the Abidhamma etc). Rather, Buddhist practice is about introspection and self-reflection, leading to direct realisation of the true nature of mind - that is where dukkha starts, and hence that is where it can cease. Never you mind distant galaxies and dark matter, just get back onto your cushion and keep practicing
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    P.S. When it comes to science and spirituality, it shouldn’t be about “one or the other”, it should be about how they can work together to give us a better understanding of the human condition. Neither one is “worse” than the other, they are just different domains of enquiry, which can be complementary if approached with the right attitude.
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