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  1. #1 Am I A Schisophrenic or A True Investigator ? 
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    Hi, everybody. My name is Allen Chaolong Huang. I used to be a science teacher in Chian. I am not a religious person at all, and may nerver be. I've always been loyal to science all my life. I believe in only facts. I don't do drug, nor alcohol and smoke. I consider myself a true investigator. But everybody calls me a schizophrenic after I share my expriment reports with them. I asked a surgeon to give me a follow-up surgery on my inner ear to clean up the regrowth of cholestetoma. And he sent to me to a psychiatrist, who dianosed me with schizophrenia. Now I ask you to read my research reports and make your own judgement: Preface
    I am fighting a stubborn cholestetoma in the inner ear that eroded into imy brain again and again . I could die any day . I don’t want to die with my discoveries unshared. In case I do die, I am asking everyone of you pick up my studies and continue the research.
    To have an open mind is to allow possibilities manifest themselves, instead of sentencing them to death before the trial. You don’t have to use the old rules to measure things of an unknown dimention. Not willing to doubt the conventional wisdom is not true science. True science must reinvent itself. Experiment is the ONLY way to prove or debunk my claims. Persistent experiments will bring about breakthrough.
    ( Please forgive me for my insufficiency of the English Language.)
    Part One Introduction
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    2. In order to understand your dreams, you must first able to separate your own semi-conscious thinking from your angel’s messages.
    3. In order to make dreams easier to separate, you must demand that your angel produce dreams in ways of very different from your own thinking styles. And tell it not to follow your thinking thread, so as to avoid mess-up.
    4. In order to know what the dreams are about, you’d better take the initiative by asking your angel question one at a time before you go into a “sleep” state, instead of letting it bom-bard you with barrage of messages that you have no idea what they are all about.
    5. The bottleneck in communication with angels is the bizarre styles of “languages” and signals they use. It is because they are not allowed to expose themselves voluntarily, nor they are allowed to give mankind clear messages consistently. Only a very small percentage of messages are as plain as they are. Their governance is automated and highly effective. That is why no angels had ever successfully exposed themselves completely to the point that mankind can prove their existence. But EXPERIMENTS will break this deadlock.
    6. In order to make it easier for us to understand angels’ messages, I have devised some argot systems for all angels to use. These systems have been tested and proved to be useful.
    With the help of argot, Angel beings can get around therir when interacting with me.
    (I will provide my argot systems at a later time.)
    7. In order to see or hear messages from your angel, you do not have to go into deep sleep;
    you only need to get into a subdued state so that your angel can take lead for the thinking process temporarily. I can get myself into a subdued state anywhere any time.
    8. In order to understand the whole thing, I want you to learn the fact that there are two minds/spirits for every live human body. The 1st mind is trapped in the human body, which I call the human being for convenience; the secondary mind is with the human body, who has the freedom and the right to be in and out of the body. And I call it the angel being.
    9. The secondary mind is the so-called “intuitive mind” . Some people believe intuition is from “god” . This small god is namely your personal guardian angel.
    10. As long as the Human brain is functional, these two minds must stay with the human body
    until the human is dead. After death, the two minds are released and restored to their original state, which I call the spirit state. To my understanding, a spirit is an invisible piece of intelli-gence capable of thinking and have emotions. Spirits stay in the invisible dimention and wait for their next reincarnation.
    11. What is the difference between the two minds ? As soon as it is reincarnated, the first mind has lost its memory of all its past lives, and all its “god abilities” for as long as it is trap-ped in the body; while the secondary mind retains everything. That is why it is very worthwhile to learn from angels.
    12. One rule that everybody must know now is that messages from angel beings are not allowed to be “straight” consistently every time to the point that human scientists and skeptics can verified and accept it as fact. It is because their authority does not want us to discover its scheme ! That is why no psychic can beat the million dollar challenge. Their psychic abilities are not meant to be proven, but only to serve. To my understanding, a real psychic is a person who was given with a special function by an invisible authority.
    13. Our psychic history help to prove the above point. No matter how great our prophets were, and no matter how many great predictions have they made, everyone of them was manipulated into making some grossly wrong predictions by an invisible being, in purpose to fool the mankind and keep its scheme covered. Our contemporary psychics have the same fate. From time to time they were manipulated into being out of their best ability and got themselves humiliated. I am subjected to humiliation too simply because I will make a lot of mispoints and missteps.
    The above points were drewn from my own years of Experiments, but not made up by fantasy or illusion. Of coursely my claims are subjected to be verified by other researchers' experiments. That's why I want to make my research reports public. I will provide experiment reports to support my claims. Remind you again: No one can prove or debunk my claims with theory alone. Experiments must be conducted !
    Truthfully Allen Chaolong Huang.
    to be continued


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    Let's start with your first claim, since your other claims depend on it being true...
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    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    What reasons/evidence do you have for believing that people have person guardian angels?


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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    As someone who, in your own words, "used to be a science teacher" and "believe[s] in only facts" you should be aware that there is no evidence for "angels", personal or otherwise.

    8. In order to understand the whole thing, I want you to learn the fact that there are two minds/spirits for every live human body. The 1st mind is trapped in the human body, which I call the human being for convenience; the secondary mind is with the human body, who has the freedom and the right to be in and out of the body. And I call it the angel being.
    This too is unscientific and unevidenced.

    After death, the two minds are released and restored to their original state
    As is this.

    As soon as it is reincarnated
    And this.

    Their psychic abilities are not meant to be proven
    And "psychic abilities".
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.

    [citation needed]

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    2. In order to understand your dreams, you must first able to separate your own semi-conscious thinking from your angel’s messages.

    This follows from your first point that has yet to be supported by evidence, thus the validity of this statement is questionable.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    3. In order to make dreams easier to separate, you must demand that your angel produce dreams in ways of very different from your own thinking styles. And tell it not to follow your thinking thread, so as to avoid mess-up.

    This also follows from your first point that has yet to be supported by evidence, thus the validity of this statement is also questionable.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    4. In order to know what the dreams are about, you’d better take the initiative by asking your angel question one at a time before you go into a “sleep” state, instead of letting it bom-bard you with barrage of messages that you have no idea what they are all about.

    But do dreams contain messages?

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    5. The bottleneck in communication with angels is the bizarre styles of “languages” and signals they use. It is because they are not allowed to expose themselves voluntarily, nor they are allowed to give mankind clear messages consistently. Only a very small percentage of messages are as plain as they are. Their governance is automated and highly effective. That is why no angels had ever successfully exposed themselves completely to the point that mankind can prove their existence. But EXPERIMENTS will break this deadlock.

    Yet, you argue that they exist in post #1.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    6. In order to make it easier for us to understand angels’ messages, I have devised some argot systems for all angels to use. These systems have been tested and proved to be useful. With the help of argot, Angel beings can get around therir when interacting with me. (I will provide my argot systems at a later time.)

    Go on.

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    7. In order to see or hear messages from your angel, you do not have to go into deep sleep;
    you only need to get into a subdued state so that your angel can take lead for the thinking process temporarily. I can get myself into a subdued state anywhere any time.

    This statement relies on the existence of angels (for which there is no evidence).

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    8. In order to understand the whole thing, I want you to learn the fact that there are two minds/spirits for every live human body. The 1st mind is trapped in the human body, which I call the human being for convenience; the secondary mind is with the human body, who has the freedom and the right to be in and out of the body. And I call it the angel being.

    If it is a fact, provide your reference(s).

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    9. The secondary mind is the so-called “intuitive mind” . Some people believe intuition is from “god” . This small god is namely your personal guardian angel.

    Neither angels nor god have been demonstrated to exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    10. As long as the Human brain is functional, these two minds must stay with the human body
    until the human is dead. After death, the two minds are released and restored to their original state, which I call the spirit state. To my understanding, a spirit is an invisible piece of intelli-gence capable of thinking and have emotions. Spirits stay in the invisible dimention and wait for their next reincarnation.

    Basically, two entities that are not proven to exist transform into another state for which there is no evidence that is located into a realm that has never been observed to await for a process that is not supported by any scientific evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    11. What is the difference between the two minds ? As soon as it is reincarnated, the first mind has lost its memory of all its past lives, and all its “god abilities” for as long as it is trap-ped in the body; while the secondary mind retains everything. That is why it is very worthwhile to learn from angels.

    [citation needed]

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    12. One rule that everybody must know now is that messages from angel beings are not allowed to be “straight” consistently every time to the point that human scientists and skeptics can verified and accept it as fact. It is because their authority does not want us to discover its scheme ! That is why no psychic can beat the million dollar challenge. Their psychic abilities are not meant to be proven, but only to serve. To my understanding, a real psychic is a person who was given with a special function by an invisible authority.

    So, your experiments and your statements are not science?
    Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator
    13. Our psychic history help to prove the above point. No matter how great our prophets were, and no matter how many great predictions have they made, everyone of them was manipulated into making some grossly wrong predictions by an invisible being, in purpose to fool the mankind and keep its scheme covered. Our contemporary psychics have the same fate. From time to time they were manipulated into being out of their best ability and got themselves humiliated. I am subjected to humiliation too simply because I will make a lot of mispoints and missteps.

    In other words, you are postulating excuses for why self-proclaimed psychics cannot do what they claim they can do.

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    The above points were drewn from my own years of Experiments, but not made up by fantasy or illusion. Of coursely my claims are subjected to be verified by other researchers' experiments. That's why I want to make my research reports public. I will provide experiment reports to support my claims. Remind you again: No one can prove or debunk my claims with theory alone. Experiments must be conducted !

    What were the hypotheses?
    What was the design of your experiments?
    How have you collected the data?
    How have you analysed the data?
    Are they any shortcomings in the methodology?
    In what journal are you going to publish them?
    Are you hypotheses based on previous studies? If so, which ones?
    Have you consulted other researchers to ask them for input?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
    Let's start with your first claim, since your other claims depend on it being true...
    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    What reasons/evidence do you have for believing that people have person guardian angels?
    RedPanda, I have conducted countless experiments since 2008. I am interacting with angel beings everyday and night. Am I allowed to add my factual experiment reports onto this thread in the top post? I need to bring my true discoveries to the public, esp. the professional researchers. Which forum is the best place for this kind of paranormal research? Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
    Let's start with your first claim, since your other claims depend on it being true...
    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    What reasons/evidence do you have for believing that people have person guardian angels?
    RedPanda, I have conducted countless experiments since 2008. I am interacting with angel beings everyday and night. Am I allowed to add my factual experiment reports onto this thread in the top post? I need to bring my true discoveries to the public, esp. the professional researchers. Which forum is the best place for this kind of paranormal research? Thank you.

    If you use DropBox of Google Drive, you can share the URL of the documents in this thread.
    Paranormal research is best suited in the Pseudoscience​ sub-forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    I have conducted countless experiments since 2008. I am interacting with angel beings everyday and night. Am I allowed to add my factual experiment reports onto this thread in the top post? I need to bring my true discoveries to the public, esp. the professional researchers.
    Haven't you also claimed:
    12. One rule that everybody must know now is that messages from angel beings are not allowed to be “straight” consistently every time to the point that human scientists and skeptics can verified and accept it as fact. It is because their authority does not want us to discover its scheme !
    So what you're saying on the one hand is that these "angels" can't be verified, and on the other hand that you have verified them.
    How does that work?

    Could you describe your "experiments"

    Which forum is the best place for this kind of paranormal research? Thank you.
    Preferably a different forum altogether: there's plenty of gullible crank sites around, but if you're determined to post your "factual reports" here then Pseudoscience would be the most appropriate sub-forum.
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    Genius Duck: I am sure that I am not insane because I am able understanding all scientific principles. All I need to do next is to provide experiment reports and help you and other researchers to repeat my experiments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Genius Duck: I am sure that I am not insane
    Most insane people don't believe they are.

    because I am able understanding all scientific principles.
    And at the same time you ignore them and talk about "angels", "reincarnation" and "psychic abilities".

    All I need to do next is to provide experiment reports and help you and other researchers to repeat my experiments.
    Riight...
    Any particular reason why we should take you seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Genius Duck: I am sure that I am not insane because I am able understanding all scientific principles. All I need to do next is to provide experiment reports and help you and other researchers to repeat my experiments.

    OK, given the fact that I have explained how you can share them, we will await your reports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    RedPanda, I have conducted countless experiments since 2008. I am interacting with angel beings everyday and night. Am I allowed to add my factual experiment reports onto this thread in the top post? I need to bring my true discoveries to the public, esp. the professional researchers. Which forum is the best place for this kind of paranormal research? Thank you.
    Well, if you have evidence, then I would like to see it.
    If you are having trouble showing/linking the results, perhaps you could describe the experiments instead?
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    Column Professor, I want to re-arrange my material in a different farmat first: (1) self introduction. (2) The Hypotheses. (3) The Experiments. (4) The Conclusions. (5) The Prospect. (6) Answers to question. (7) The Anecdotes. Another format is Just report my experiments one by one randomly, and ask readers for their oppinions at the end of each report. This format is easier to do. I don't have to come up with the whole thing at once. I can post one report at a time When I am having a meal, or whren I am taking a break from my experiment. I am busy with experiments everyday and night. Thank you for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    (2) The Hypotheses.
    Bearing in mind, and of course, as someone who "used to be a science teacher" you'll be fully aware of this, that a hypothesis is a proposed explanation for an observed phenomenon.
    You haven't explained, or even proposed to explain, what observations have been made that led you to "hypothesise" that angels (or any of the other crap) actually exist.
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    ..other than hearing voices in his head.
    Fixin' shit that ain't broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Column Professor, I want to re-arrange my material in a different farmat first: (1) self introduction. (2) The Hypotheses. (3) The Experiments. (4) The Conclusions. (5) The Prospect. (6) Answers to question. (7) The Anecdotes. Another format is Just report my experiments one by one randomly, and ask readers for their oppinions at the end of each report. This format is easier to do. I don't have to come up with the whole thing at once. I can post one report at a time When I am having a meal, or whren I am taking a break from my experiment. I am busy with experiments everyday and night. Thank you for your help.
    Well, currently there is nothing much to discuss as all we have seen so far are unsupported claims.
    You will need to provide some support else we are stuck at the "citation needed" stage.
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    One guardian angel. Just one? Pfffft.

    According to Hansel and Gretel you should have 14, fourteen!, guardian angels. Hansel and Gretel duet - When at Night - YouTube
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    Apparently I'm so unlikeable that even the voices in my head won't speak to me.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    MODERATOR NOTE : "Angelic beings" and their messages is not something that belongs into General Discussions on a science forum, which is what this place is ( hint - see the domain name ). Moved to Pseudoscience section.
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    Sir Ducky!
    As someone who, in your own words, "used to be a science teacher" and "believe[s] in only facts" you should be aware that there is no evidence for "angels", personal or otherwise.
    NONSENSE!! I am an angel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Apparently I'm so unlikeable that even the voices in my head won't speak to me.
    My guardian angel ran off with the milkman's guardian angel.
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    I find fascinating that there are people who really think they can convert sciencers (and normal healty persons)convice such bad fantasy story
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    I caught my guardian angel stealing my weed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Hi, everybody. My name is Allen Chaolong Huang. I used to be a science teacher in Chian........... Experiment is the ONLY way to prove or debunk my claims.
    It is up to you to prove your claims, not for us to debunk them. You have not offered any significant evidence to support your assertion that the angels you communicate with are separate beings rather than products of your own imagination. Can you offer anything that would support this assertion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
    Hi, everybody. My name is Allen Chaolong Huang. I used to be a science teacher in Chian. I am not a religious person at all, and may nerver be. I've always been loyal to science all my life. I believe in only facts. I don't do drug, nor alcohol and smoke. I consider myself a true investigator. But everybody calls me a schizophrenic after I share my expriment reports with them. I asked a surgeon to give me a follow-up surgery on my inner ear to clean up the regrowth of cholestetoma. And he sent to me to a psychiatrist, who dianosed me with schizophrenia. Now I ask you to read my research reports and make your own judgement: Preface
    I am fighting a stubborn cholestetoma in the inner ear that eroded into imy brain again and again . I could die any day . I don’t want to die with my discoveries unshared. In case I do die, I am asking everyone of you pick up my studies and continue the research.
    When the psychiatrist diagnosed you with schizophrenia, did the doctor prescribe you with any medication?

    One of the issues with schizophrenia is that you can sometimes believe that there is something wrong with you and there may not be. Which could be why the surgeon referred you to a psychiatrist.


    To have an open mind is to allow possibilities manifest themselves, instead of sentencing them to death before the trial. You don’t have to use the old rules to measure things of an unknown dimention. Not willing to doubt the conventional wisdom is not true science. True science must reinvent itself. Experiment is the ONLY way to prove or debunk my claims. Persistent experiments will bring about breakthrough.
    And also through observation. And while an open mind is essential, it stands to reason that you need to be able to measure and observe. Which is impossible with what you go on to claim with your post.


    Part One Introduction
    1. Dreams are from two sources: one is your own semi-conscious thinking; another is the messages from your personal guardian angel.
    And here lies the problem.

    What guardian angel?


    2. In order to understand your dreams, you must first able to separate your own semi-conscious thinking from your angel’s messages.
    Again, what guardian angel?

    One of the biggest problems for people with schizophrenia is that you hallucinate. Just because you imagine a guardian angel is there for you does not mean that everyone else also has the exact same hallucination and certainly, the majority of non-schizophrenia suffers do not suffer such hallucinations.

    3. In order to make dreams easier to separate, you must demand that your angel produce dreams in ways of very different from your own thinking styles. And tell it not to follow your thinking thread, so as to avoid mess-up.
    And yet, we have no control over our dreams.

    4. In order to know what the dreams are about, you’d better take the initiative by asking your angel question one at a time before you go into a “sleep” state, instead of letting it bom-bard you with barrage of messages that you have no idea what they are all about.

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    The guardian angels you are seeing and speaking to are a symptom and result of your illness. It is a hallucination. Did you see and speak to this guardian angel when you were a child? When did you first start seeing it?


    The above points were drewn from my own years of Experiments, but not made up by fantasy or illusion. Of coursely my claims are subjected to be verified by other researchers' experiments. That's why I want to make my research reports public. I will provide experiment reports to support my claims. Remind you again: No one can prove or debunk my claims with theory alone. Experiments must be conducted !
    Truthfully Allen Chaolong Huang.
    to be continued
    I mean no offense when I say this. You need to go and see your doctor sooner rather than later and discuss your medications, if you have or have not been taking them. Most importantly, you need to discus everything, you have been telling us here in this thread, with your specialist.
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    I caught my guardian angel stealing my weed.
    bad angel....bad bad angel....clip it's wings!
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    Apparently I'm so unlikeable that even the voices in my head won't speak to me.
    This.. is.. pure.. win..

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    To the OP; It isn't that we here require an open mind to understand your assertions relating to a guardian angel, etc...it is that we would require a religious mind. Not to seem like I'm shutting the door on your sales presentation, but your 'theory' is relying on using science to prove the supernatural...or at the very least, having the two schools of thought...intersect. Many religious people have claimed to believe in angelic beings, etc...I don't believe them to be insane, or hallucinating. To me, it's more about wishful thinking, than anything else. On a totally random note...WHY IS THERE SO MUCH TALK ON HERE ABOUT DREAMS? You go to sleep, you have a dream ...who cares? lol I just don't pay much mind to my dreams, and I forget most of 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A True Investigator View Post
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    A good guardian angel would not allow this
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    Come lie with me

    OOPS...
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    sorry, everybody. due to the lack of time and the lack of energy, I could not join you for now. Thank you. In the future, I will find a more productive way to share my experiments with the mankind. If you do want to conduct experiments, I will guide you through email or train you in person. I am living in the Los Angeles county now.
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    For sure you are too long winded, especially when most internet forum participants seem merely to scan what is written.
    Search engines are such useful tools .. I wonder why more people don't use them?
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    Is misspelling a mental condition a sign of denial? Thus he is schizophrenic? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    And yet, we have no control over our dreams.
    This is incorrect. The control may be weak and intermittent, but it is certainly there. I'm not sure why you would think we have no control.
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    When I first started having flying dreams I had little to no control, mostly I would experience an alarming slow random float. As I had more flying dreams my control got better. Now I can do Superman style, or the Magneto float, I find "big leaps" to be the funnest. In fact that's how I often determine that I am dreaming, by flying.
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    I was reading the OP about how he believes only in hard facts and is not a religious person, I was interested in what he had to say. But suddenly he is talking about angels. I was like:

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    I think EVERYONE has dreamed about flying!! I know I do often!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    And yet, we have no control over our dreams.
    This is incorrect. The control may be weak and intermittent, but it is certainly there. I'm not sure why you would think we have no control.

    Are you referring to the concept of lucid dreaming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    And yet, we have no control over our dreams.
    This is incorrect. The control may be weak and intermittent, but it is certainly there. I'm not sure why you would think we have no control.

    Are you referring to the concept of lucid dreaming?
    I am thinking of two things. Lucid dreaming is one of them, but back when I was experimenting with dreaming I acquired the ability - very easily - to 'design' a dream topic or theme and have it occur within a couple of days. I assume this is a normal ability.
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    I don't know that I can change my dream except by awaking up Mr. Galt. So I don't understand your statement that we can change our dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I am thinking of two things. Lucid dreaming is one of them, but back when I was experimenting with dreaming I acquired the ability - very easily - to 'design' a dream topic or theme and have it occur within a couple of days. I assume this is a normal ability.

    So if you chose a topic such as Christmas, then you would dream about Christmas in couple of days?
    I suppose you have repeated it often to make sure it was not merely coincidence?

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    I don't know that I can change my dream except by awaking up Mr. Galt. So I don't understand your statement that we can change our dreams.

    An example is lucid dreaming; this is when an individual is dreaming and he/she is aware of that.
    Often, individuals can exert some degree of control over the content of their dreams.
    (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I am thinking of two things. Lucid dreaming is one of them, but back when I was experimenting with dreaming I acquired the ability - very easily - to 'design' a dream topic or theme and have it occur within a couple of days. I assume this is a normal ability.

    So if you chose a topic such as Christmas, then you would dream about Christmas in couple of days?
    I suppose you have repeated it often to make sure it was not merely coincidence?
    I state this in a different forum......I think....senior moment....but when I am doing a show.....I have NIGHTMARES about forgetting my music, or my lines or my choreography or a prop missing or my costume tears apart..or losing a wig if I am wigged or a false eyelash (which almost happened) ...I think it is just stress and anxiety because it happens the week before opening night and I have been at the theatre usually 14 hours a day for those last two weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I am thinking of two things. Lucid dreaming is one of them, but back when I was experimenting with dreaming I acquired the ability - very easily - to 'design' a dream topic or theme and have it occur within a couple of days. I assume this is a normal ability.

    So if you chose a topic such as Christmas, then you would dream about Christmas in couple of days?
    I suppose you have repeated it often to make sure it was not merely coincidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I don't know that I can change my dream except by awaking up Mr. Galt. So I don't understand your statement that we can change our dreams.

    An example is lucid dreaming; this is when an individual is dreaming and he/she is aware of that.
    Often, individuals can exert some degree of control over the content of their dreams.
    (cf. Lucid dream - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    I don't know if this is quite the same thing as you guys are on with but I can on the odd occasion but certainly not all the time become I'm aware that I'm dreaming, as I said this is quite rare and I've no idea how I become aware of the dreaming but it is quite enjoyable when it happens as I can then do pretty much anything at all within the dream, so I guess this is probably similar, that of having the control, but still not a scooby of how that control is initially obtained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I don't know if this is quite the same thing as you guys are on with but I can on the odd occasion but certainly not all the time become I'm aware that I'm dreaming, as I said this is quite rare and I've no idea how I become aware of the dreaming but it is quite enjoyable when it happens as I can then do pretty much anything at all within the dream, so I guess this is probably similar, that of having the control, but still not a scooby of how that control is initially obtained.

    I think you have just described the experience of lucid dreaming.
    How this is initiated, is beyond my understanding.
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    I babysat my buddy's dog once. It twitches and makes noises when deep into a sleep. Not sure what message his guardian angel is sending him at his time. Probably dreaming about the pussy next door. Dog's resemble their owners in more ways than one.
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    My problem is that my dog's guardian angel isn't a person, but rather another dog. Instead of teaching him good behavior, he tells my dog to crap on the patio when the lawn is wet to avoid icky paws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    My problem is that my dog's guardian angel isn't a person, but rather another dog. Instead of teaching him good behavior, he tells my dog to crap on the patio when the lawn is wet to avoid icky paws.
    My guardian angel was a dog too.
    I guess that him running off with the milkman's angel was a blessing in disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    I don't know if this is quite the same thing as you guys are on with but I can on the odd occasion but certainly not all the time become I'm aware that I'm dreaming, as I said this is quite rare and I've no idea how I become aware of the dreaming but it is quite enjoyable when it happens as I can then do pretty much anything at all within the dream, so I guess this is probably similar, that of having the control, but still not a scooby of how that control is initially obtained.

    I think you have just described the experience of lucid dreaming.
    How this is initiated, is beyond my understanding.
    Cheers, I've heard of lucid dreaming before but thought is some kind of technique or learned skill perhaps, certainly I wasn't aware it was something that could occur naturally though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Cheers, I've heard of lucid dreaming before but thought is some kind of technique or learned skill perhaps, certainly I wasn't aware it was something that could occur naturally though.

    Of what I have read about the subject, it can be learned although some people already experience lucid dreaming without the need of training.
    An illustration of this, is perhaps the scene in Inception (2010) where Ariadne (Ellen Page) and Dominique (Leonardo DiCaprio) have a chit-chat in Paris:

    Cobb: So how did we end up here?

    Ariadne: Well we just came from the a...

    Cobb: Think about it Ariadne, how did you get here? Where are you right now?

    Ariadne: We're dreaming?

    Cobb: You're actually in the middle of the workshop right now, sleeping. This is your first lesson in shared dreaming. Stay calm.
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