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  1. #1 Could this be our true origins? 
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    Hello everybody,
    Me and my friends were talking about our history and origins today and one of my friends told me to check out one videos (i'll post it down) so i did.
    It was pretty interesting,only problem was it's more a conspiracy theory then a real science subject.
    Video tells about ancient scripts from all around world,and in every scripts it says all begin with Reptil-like gods.
    I know this probably isn't right place to ask,but i had a bet with my friends about it.
    If you could,please tell me why does every culture has origins about "reptiles from above" and what are scientific explanations for that.

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    Please don't get mad about this subject.




    Real History of Earth Suppressed Story of Reptilians the Annunaki? 'Hidden Human History' - YouTube


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    The video is a mix of lies, fantasy and badly-understood fact.
    For example it claims that Pluto was discovered due a search by astronomers for Nibiru.
    Could you explain how this is possible since Pluto was discovered in 1930 and Nibiru wasn't really brought to anyone's attention until Sitchin (born 1920), published his book in 1976?

    every culture has origins about "reptiles from above
    Do they? Really?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    The video is a mix of lies, fantasy and badly-understood fact.
    For example it claims that Pluto was discovered due a search by astronomers for Nibiru.
    Could you explain how this is possible since Pluto was discovered in 1930 and Nibiru wasn't really brought to anyone's attention until Sitchin (born 1920), published his book in 1976?

    every culture has origins about "reptiles from above
    Do they? Really?
    Thanks for reply.
    Yes you really do have point about Pluto and Nibiru,but i still don't understand how can almost every civilization on every part of the world have reptilian gods.
    Also i read about Serpent worshiping,which is one of the oldest worships in human history.
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    Dinosaur bones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Dinosaur bones.
    I was thinking same thing,but how did peoples back then know how to dig ,and reconstruct them?
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    People "knew" how to dig since the dawn of civilization. As for reconstructing these giant bones, it's not like they couldn't easily refer to another skeleton for reference.

    Imagine finding a whole load of giant bones that could be put together to look like the skeleton of a smaller, but commonly-found reptile. What would a primitive culture do if not assume this "dragon" was like some sort of deity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus Rex View Post
    but i still don't understand how can almost every civilization on every part of the world have reptilian gods.
    I'll try again.
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    Do they? Really?
    What (OTHER) civilisations have "reptilian gods"?
    (Other than those where reptilians happen to be one type in a mix of OTHER animal types).

    Also i read about Serpent worshiping,which is one of the oldest worships in human history.
    The fact that ophialatry appears in some religions doesn't mean that gods (i.e. aliens) were reptilian.
    The Egyptians had a thing for cats. Does that mean there's a race of alien cat people out there?

    Sitchin and the like rely on pulling almost entirely disparate strings together and presenting them as interwoven threads when it's not actually the case.
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    He is right in one sense. Not all, but a lot of cultures worship some sort of serpent as a creator.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    Hey guys,i just read about Zecharia Sitchin and i didn't want to open new thread.
    I want to hear about your opinion about Zecharia Sitchin theory?
    Here is video about his theory:

    Lost Realms - Zecharia Sitchin - FREE MOVIE - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus Rex View Post
    Hey guys,i just read about Zecharia Sitchin and i didn't want to open new thread.
    I want to hear about your opinion about Zecharia Sitchin theory?
    Here is video about his theory:

    Lost Realms - Zecharia Sitchin - FREE MOVIE - YouTube

    Most likely a crank:
    Zecharia Sitchin - RationalWiki
    http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

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    Oh lawks. Nibiru? Really?

    After starting out with the Annunaki. Oh well, I suppose Sitchin is the link -- which would make a very fragile chain.

    Tyrannosaurus rex I think you would do better with some new, or at least other, friends who might recommend better books and videos.

    There are some excellent resources around the place for comparative mythology and creation myths. Some of it is really good fun just picking out which gods are equivalent to which other gods in the various mythological schema. And then look at the highly localised gods of volcanoes and mountains and so on. All good - so long as you stick to reputable researchers and steer well clear of cranks (and the conspiracy theorists who seem to latch on to some of this stuff and cling like barnacles).
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    I've been reading about this subject for more than 20 years and it's still amazing how little those people know about it who shoot it down in flames and name-call everyone interested in it.

    The fact is that human history is long and that we can only reconstruct it by what we can find (which is very little) plus when we do we give it our own interpretations, or dismiss it.

    There are certainly many common threads regarding reptile-like ancestors running through almost all Earth cultures, early religions, folklore and mythology and these can be traced back as far as we can go. When we consider that most of these seperate cultures had no contact with each other, yet they had the same stories to tell and very similar 'gods' to rever and/or fear then it should prick everyone's curiosity, because obviously 'something' was going on in our deep beginnings that these days we find very hard to get our heads around.

    There's also much written in the Torah about the Anakim, plus other variations on the name Anunaki - which means 'long-necked' in Hebrew and they are referred to having long-necks in Sumarian texts, as well as in the Torah as a race of people living among us together with others that fit the descriptions of Neaderthals - in the Torah all these different 'non human' peoples were eventually destroyed in battles leaving only ourselves on Earth.

    The fact is that mainstream science has no interest in properly researching Biblical/myth archeology and no funding to do so either, and so this provides no 'proof', which leads most people to scoff at it - but all these peoples are described in ancient texts as inhabiting certain areas, mountains and caves; so these places need to be properly uncovered before anyone can legitimately deny that all early references to aliens and reptilian people were a load of hogwash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukjojo View Post
    I've been reading about this subject for more than 20 years and it's still amazing how little those people know about it who shoot it down in flames and name-call everyone interested in it.
    Ironic that you have been studying this for 20 years and yet seem woefully ignorant.

    There are certainly many common threads regarding reptile-like ancestors running through almost all Earth cultures, early religions, folklore and mythology and these can be traced back as far as we can go.
    And there are many other myths about fish, birds and monkeys. This tells us nothing (other than something about culture and human imagination). The objective evidence makes it quite clear that humans are not reptiles and could not possibly be descended from reptiles.

    When we consider that most of these seperate cultures had no contact with each other
    I don't know what you base that on, but there is evidence of trade and cultural exchange across large parts of the globe going back to prehistory.

    yet they had the same stories to tell and very similar 'gods'
    Which is more likely to be evidence of cultural exchange (something we know happens) than mythical creatures (for which there is no evidence).

    There's also much written in the Torah about the Anakim, plus other variations on the name Anunaki
    Anakim (Hebrew) has absolutely no connection with Anunnaki (Sumerian - not even a Semitic language - meaning "of royal blood").

    Although, of course, many of the stories (note: stories) the Sumerians told survived and were included in the Bible (e.g. the flood myth). Further evidence of cultural diffusion.

    The fact is that mainstream science has no interest in properly researching Biblical/myth archeology
    Really? What do you base this on?
    holy land archaeology - Google Scholar

    That doesn't look like "no interest".

    Perhaps what you mean is that science hasn't provided any support for David Icke and his crazy followers. Not surprisingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus Rex View Post
    but i still don't understand how can almost every civilization on every part of the world have reptilian gods.
    I'll try again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Do they? Really?
    What (OTHER) civilisations have "reptilian gods"?
    (Other than those where reptilians happen to be one type in a mix of OTHER animal types).

    Also i read about Serpent worshiping,which is one of the oldest worships in human history.
    The fact that ophialatry appears in some religions doesn't mean that gods (i.e. aliens) were reptilian.
    The Egyptians had a thing for cats. Does that mean there's a race of alien cat people out there?

    Sitchin and the like rely on pulling almost entirely disparate strings together and presenting them as interwoven threads when it's not actually the case.
    Aren't you an alien cat person? As, you live in a different world than I, and are fond of felines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Aren't you an alien cat person?
    I deny that!
    You can't prove I'm a person.
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    Another "Open mouth, insert foot" episode occured during our feast yestereve.
    My son invited a woman from Bolivia to join us. Someone mentioned "GOD", so I started in with the "GOD" jokes.
    This morning, I was informed that the Bolivian woman was a divinity student...........................


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