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  1. #1 DNA capable of being reprogrammed by words and frequencies 
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    Hi, this is my first post and I've come seeking advice.

    This has popped up a fair bit lately on my facebook feed and I'm curious if anyone here has actually been able to locate the study and could point out some criticisms of it or do one themself. It sounds completely far-fetched to me but I haven't been able to find much information other than dodgy websites pedaling it as a major scientific breakthrough. The fact I'm struggling to find an article on a credible website about something that would appear to have huge implications sets my alarm bells ringing. Not to mention that everything I've been able to find on it basically lends itself to new-age claims of future human evolution. Reeks of pseudo-science and so I found this forum.

    I thought I'd post it here to hopefully stir up some discussion and get a response from some scientifically literate people.

    The forum won't allow me to post a link. It keeps saying post denied and something about limited number of URLs...Very frustrating as a newcomer but I'll try and post the link in question in a reply.

    The author of this supposed study was one Pjotr Garjajev. I noticed Garjajev is mentioned in another thread here but I did a search for some keywords to see if there was anything on this study and couldn't find any. If this topic has already been covered then mods feel free to merge this with the other thread.

    Thanks in advance.


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    Okay, the forum won't let me post the link....It keeps saying "Post denied. New posts are limited by number of URLs it may contain and checked if it doesn't contain forbidden words."

    Hopefully this works...

    altering-perspectives DOT COM /2013/08/dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-and.html


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    The claim is unmitigated nonsense.
    Your Friday Dose of Woo: Reprogram your DNA! Respectful Insolence

    PS the entire site (Altering perspectives) appears to be complete woo. Avoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You Don't Belong View Post

    This has popped up a fair bit lately on my facebook feed and I'm curious if anyone here has actually been able to locate the study and could point out some criticisms of it or do one themself. It sounds completely far-fetched to me but I haven't been able to find much information other than dodgy websites pedaling it as a major scientific breakthrough. The fact I'm struggling to find an article on a credible website about something that would appear to have huge implications sets my alarm bells ringing. Not to mention that everything I've been able to find on it basically lends itself to new-age claims of future human evolution. Reeks of pseudo-science and so I found this forum.

    The author of this supposed study was one Pjotr Garjajev. I noticed Garjajev is mentioned in another thread here but I did a search for some keywords to see if there was anything on this study and couldn't find any. If this topic has already been covered then mods feel free to merge this with the other thread.

    You are referring to the thread about the DNA Phantom Effect
    (cf. DNA Phantom Effect).


    I too was intrigued by the claims that were made, but I could not find reliable sources either.
    If you are interested, you can read about my investigations that I made about the subject.

    And be sure to check out the link member Dywyddyr gave you.
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    Well, if you found it on Facebook you should probably just ignore it in the first place. I don't even know how much nonsense I've seen on there. I recently saw something about Mars being so close to us this month that it would look exactly like two full moons in the sky. And it had 300,000 shares -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by mat5592 View Post
    Well, if you found it on Facebook you should probably just ignore it in the first place. I don't even know how much nonsense I've seen on there. I recently saw something about Mars being so close to us this month that it would look exactly like two full moons in the sky. And it had 300,000 shares -_-

    Unfortunately, many people reason like this:
    "If it is on the Internet, it must be true."
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

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    Thanks for the responses, although I've already read those links. I guess there isn't much out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by mat5592 View Post
    Well, if you found it on Facebook you should probably just ignore it in the first place. I don't even know how much nonsense I've seen on there. I recently saw something about Mars being so close to us this month that it would look exactly like two full moons in the sky. And it had 300,000 shares -_-
    I like to try and educate my friends and stop the flow of misinformation whenever I can. In a polite manner of course.
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    Unfortunately, it is very hard to provide evidence to some people that this sort of thing is nonsense. They might say, "why hasn't any disproved it?" To which the only rational response is, "why would anyone bother as it is prima facie nonsense." But, if someone can't see that it is obvious nonsense then maybe they won't be satisfied by that. And they won't understand the difference between random articles about it and some scientific research.
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    If I assume (for the sake of the argument) that DNA is capable of being reprogrammed by words, then does this also apply to RNA and other XNA molecules?
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

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